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Old 09-17-2007 | 05:19 PM
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8j 18' offset 35

Will this work on my rear ?? :D

I can't try before buy because I want to buy online.. but will this fit??

Thanks guys!

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Old 09-17-2007 | 05:21 PM
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im sure Rally can make it work.
 
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Old 09-17-2007 | 09:10 PM
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im sure Rally can make it work.

haha i dont touch 18s....its hard to pull off any agressive widths and offsets with 18s because they even rub when they are 7 inches wide and high offsets.

I would say "yes" they could fit....but you're gonna probably notice some rubbing at stock height and probably wouldn't be able to lower it at all. You're talking about a wheel that would stick out like 10mm from the edge of the arch......so they *might* fit alright, but i think i would keep looking.
 
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Old 09-17-2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Coen_de_K
Will this work on my rear ?? :D

I can't try before buy because I want to buy online.. but will this fit??

Thanks guys!

Coen
netherlands
OK, we need more information.

What year MINI, MC or MCS?

What suspension? If lowered, how much lower?

What is your alignment? How much negative camber front and rear?

How much do you carry in the rear seat most of the time? Any people?

Do you have any rubbing now? What wheels and tires do you have now?

How rough or bad are your local roads? Very smooth or horrible?

What size tires were you thinking of using with the 18x8 rims +35 offset?

How much do the rims weigh? 18x8 can be heavy. Are you prepared for that? Or maybe you want larger wheels to clear a big brake kit?

Probably crucial is the tire size- don't get anything much taller than 24.4" outer tire diameter if possible. 18x8 rim is wider than stock by 1 inch and +35 offset means the rim will mount 12 mm more to the outside of the car than stock which is negated by the 1/2" wider it faces the inside. 205/40-18 or 215/35-18 would be good.

Net result the tire is about the same as stock on the inside but about 18 mm more facing the outside which is about one inch sticking out compared to stock. If the tire is taller than stock this means it could rub against the inner wheel liner. Depends on how much rear negative camber you have.

In the front you might rub the wider tires on the inner wheel liner on full turn.
So there you don't really want to get very wide tires to mount. If you check the JCW wheels they often come with 205mm tires to get more clearance.
 

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Old 09-18-2007 | 01:52 AM
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@rally.. thanks


Originally Posted by minihune
OK, we need more information.

1 What year MINI, MC or MCS?

2 What suspension? If lowered, how much lower?

3 What is your alignment? How much negative camber front and rear?

4 How much do you carry in the rear seat most of the time? Any people?

5 Do you have any rubbing now? What wheels and tires do you have now?

6 How rough or bad are your local roads? Very smooth or horrible?

7 What size tires were you thinking of using with the 18x8 rims +35 offset?

8 How much do the rims weigh? 18x8 can be heavy. Are you prepared for that? Or maybe you want larger wheels to clear a big brake kit?

9 Probably crucial is the tire size- don't get anything much taller than 24.4" outer tire diameter if possible. 18x8 rim is wider than stock by 1 inch and +35 offset means the rim will mount 12 mm more to the outside of the car than stock which is negated by the 1/2" wider it faces the inside. 205/40-18 or 215/35-18 would be good.

10 Net result the tire is about the same as stock on the inside but about 18 mm more facing the outside which is about one inch sticking out compared to stock. If the tire is taller than stock this means it could rub against the inner wheel liner. Depends on how much rear negative camber you have.

11 In the front you might rub the wider tires on the inner wheel liner on full turn.
So there you don't really want to get very wide tires to mount. If you check the JCW wheels they often come with 205mm tires to get more clearance.

Well let me explain

I have 4 wheels from the tirerack.. 7,5J x 18" offset 38 and I rubbed one wheel. Now I want to buy 2 new wheels but the only size I can get in the netherlands are 8Jx 18" ofset 35.

answers :
1 MCS 2003

2 Koni adjustables lowered as much as it can take

3 dunno about the camber but because I lowered it pretty much the rear wheels are standing negative

4 No people in the back NEVER

5 No rubbing ATM tires are 215/35/18

6 Roads are smooth :D

7 I want to use 215 tires.. they'll fit but will look pretty stretched.. I like that

8 Dunno about the weight... ASA AR1

9 215/35/18

10 ...

11 The front's stay 7,5 J with 18" offset 38


THANKS for the help guys!

I'dd really like the PHAT wheels in the back..

I just took a look @ my car and I think the wheel could go further out about 1cm -12mm Would be great wouldn't it???

pic of my ride




cheers and thanks for the effort guys!

Coen
 
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Old 09-18-2007 | 02:21 AM
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good looking mini, now I wish I got mine in 18"
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Old 09-18-2007 | 06:27 AM
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wonder why ASA stopped making AR1's in 18's. they look
better than their 17's on our cars..
 
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Old 09-18-2007 | 07:38 AM
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Only asa in the states then.. ASA in germany still has the 18"

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Old 09-18-2007 | 11:26 AM
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OK, so the question is given your 18x7.5 +35 offset wheels with 215/35-18 tires worked before,

Will 18x8 +35 offset wheels work to replace the rear wheels without rubbing.

The Answer is probably yes. Since offset is the same for both rims then the extra 1/2" width is split with 1/4" going more in and the rest going more out. This means about 0.2" in and 0.2" out or about 6mm each way.

Even if you did get a little rubbing you can just trim the inner plastic wheel well edge with a dremmel tool a little and it would fit. Another option is to get rear lower adjustable control arms and make the rear negative camber just enough to give clearance. I think you could set it to about -1.6 to -1.8 degrees and it still would be fine for street driving. Try it as it is now and if ti clears you won't need to adjust alignment.

If you do get the 18x8 then do a fitment check in the front to see if it will clear or not. If there is no rubbing then you have the option of getting 18x8 for all four wheels but that's your choice.
 
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Old 09-18-2007 | 12:52 PM
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Like Minihune said....if you're current ones arent a problem....the 8's shouldnt pose much more of a problem. Especially if you stick with the 215s like you said.....that's a good idea and should look great The stretch will definitely be enough to make sure rubbing is kept to a minimum
 
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Old 09-18-2007 | 03:22 PM
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ET is different..

current is ET38
New ones will be ET 35..

is going to be tricky I think...

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Old 09-18-2007 | 04:27 PM
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I think, tricky but worth it.

You're only talking a 9mm difference overall with the width and different offset taken into conisderation. If you're having your doubts, just take out a ruler and see just how small of a difference it is
 
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Old 09-19-2007 | 01:49 AM
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I'll keep you guys posted... Still waiting on a reply from ASA's side

would be great I think if it fits :D :D :D :D

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Old 09-19-2007 | 02:15 AM
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Dunno if this helps, but I'm running 18x8 et38 and no problems at all - even thinking of putting 5mm spacers on the rears to aggressivise that but I don't think I'm as low as you
 

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Old 09-19-2007 | 06:06 AM
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YES that helps

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