Ya I ordered a 2012, but because of the Recaro's . I was switched to a 2013.

 

My MA emailed me back this morning and said the MY13s are being released to carriers on the week of August 13th and that I can expect Edgar to arrive at the dealership within 2-7 days after they load up.

Talk about down to the wire since my current car is being picked up August 18th!

 

I have tried unsuccessfully multiple times. I just dont know who we need to talk to. If we can find out who to talk to I am in

 

Click the User CP on the left hand side then edit signature is an option

 

It seems there are a lot more people are in the same place I was earlier this week, scratching their heads about what Mini was doing. There is no guarantee that the cars will be released Aug 13th, the Dealers and sales folks do not know the true answer on delivery dates

Situation is poor and Mini is not going to do anything about it...

 

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but I've now heard possibly Sept. 1 for a release date, I'm still being optimistic, would really love to hear that someone actually got their 2013. Really soured by the whole process.

 

OK, when I emailed my salesman this morning about Mini not releasing the 2013 until sales of 2012 reduced inventory I got this reply:

"I’ve never heard of that so cannot say if it’s true or false.* What is true is every year they hold the next year models at the port.** We have no way of selling a 2013 model until MINI releases them to us.* I want to get as many units out a month as possible so it affects me too, but it’s out of our hands."

 

Does anyone know when Mini released the 2012s? Maybe that will serve as some guidance for us... Where is Winston? If I recall correctly he has a 2012...

 

Thanks to you and Soon2b I figured it out! Now I have a signature!

 

I am sorry this is such a long post. please do not quote or we will all be seeing this monster post for every response.

I called 6 dealerships talked with 6 GMs and got the same answer somewhat different verbiage but the same in general.

"The 2013 Monroney sticker has an error and they have to retest due to the changes on the sticker and this is the first year they are being used. All 2013 minis are waiting on this before they are released."

I did additional research on this sticker and it is the first year this new one is being used.

I got this off wikipedia - by searching for Monroney sticker.

In May 2011, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and EPA issued a joint final rule establishing new requirements for a fuel economy and environment label that will be mandatory for all new passenger cars and trucks starting with model year 2013, though carmakers can adopt it voluntarily for model year 2012. The ruling include new labels for alternative fuel and alternative propulsion vehicles available in the US market, such as plug-in hybrids, electric vehicles, flexible-fuel vehicles, hydrogen fuel cell vehicle, and natural gas vehicles.[1][2] The common fuel economy metric adopted to allow the comparison of alternative fuel and advanced technology vehicles with conventional internal combustion engine vehicles is miles per gallon of gasoline equivalent (MPGe). A gallon of gasoline equivalent means the number of kilowatt-hours of electricity, cubic feet of compressed natural gas (CNG), or kilograms of hydrogen that is equal to the energy in a gallon of gasoline.[1]
The new labels include for the first time an estimate of how much fuel or electricity it takes to drive 100 miles (160 km), providing U.S. consumers with fuel consumption per distance traveled, the efficiency metric commonly used in many other countries. EPA's objective is to avoid the traditional miles per gallon metric that can be potentially misleading when consumers compare fuel economy improvements, and known as the "MPG illusion."[1][3]
Other information provided for the first time in the redesigned labels includes:[2][3]
Greenhouse gas ratings of how a model compares to all others for tailpipe emissions of carbon dioxide. A footnote like note clarifies that upstream emissions from electricity generation are not included.
Smog emissions ratings based on air pollutans such as nitrogen oxide and particulates.
New ways to compare energy use and cost between new-technology cars that use electricity and conventional cars that are gasoline-powered.
Estimates on how much more or less consumers will save or spend on fuel over the next five years compared to the average new vehicle.
Information on the driving range while running in all-electric mode and charging time for plug-in hybrids and electric cars.
A QR Code that can be scanned by a smartphone to allow users access to online information about how various models compare on fuel economy, the price of gasoline and electricity where the user lives, and other environmental and energy factors. This tool will also allow consumers to enter information about their typical commutes and driving behavior in order to get a more precise estimate of fuel costs and savings.

- I was also told this happened 2yrs ago... the sales are showing again 6% growth. Here is another quote from an email I received.

"I have never seen them hold vehicles back because of inventory levels. Especially since every dealership in North America is starving for vehicles. This would be a very poor business strategy and certainly doesn’t warrant a business case to do so. "

I agree that it is possible that all MAs, GMs and others maybe just feeding us a scripted response mandated by Mini. I just wanted to share what I was able to find out. take it for what it is I am taking it as another "sasquatch sighting"

 

The first 2012 was picked up on Aug 1st. This was after a short delay at the VDC. Just read this here in the waiting for 2012 forum.

 

Well then lets just hope for a Aug. 1st release. So far speculation has just led us to chase our tails round and round in too many circles. All I can say is, does anyone want any popcorn?

 

and more

 

The whole new sticker thingy that MIDLYF detailed is a completely plausible explanation. So is the excess inventory conspiracy theory. What is inexcusable is no official word from MiniUSA to all those who have custom ordered cars that have been built and are just sitting in VDCs. How hard would it be to send an "official" communication to the dealerships?

 

That would be a novel approach from Mini, some open and honest communication, I have not been able to get anything out of them...

 

Rev,

My GM Jason from mini of austin said "New model year monroney sticker issues are common and easy to fix."

hmm...

 

The cars have been sitting in the us ports for 10 days now. The tests take 2-3 days to run. Even if they screwed up the stickers, they've had plenty of time to fix them. I think the likely explaination here is that they wanted to delay the release, and have been intentionally slow dealing with the EPA.

As for whether we have any legal recourse...probably not much. If the EPA testing isn't done, they will hide behind that. The one item that we might be able to push is the fact that they've taken deposits from all of us and are refusing to deliver the goods those deposits secured. Essentially they are refusing to fulfill the contract for financial gain. A lawsuit is tough, but something the BBB might take a serious interest in.

 

I've been scouring the interwebs for any new information and discovered that the 2013 X6Ms were held back in May for a monroney issue. This issue came up for the bimmers 2 months ago, and that didn't make MiniUSA think to prepare for a similar potential monroney issue with the Mini's? I'm with jeffs2 in that I feel like there must be something else going on.

 

I've been looking at the Clubman for a few years. Since I just sold a boat, I went to my local Mini dealer and traded in the F150 that had served as the tow vehicle, and ordered the Green Park Clubman, black lounge leather, Technology package, Cold Weather, Anthracite, and a few other odds and ends. I have a production number and see a VIN in the Owner's Lounge. Now I just wait...

 

Congrats and welcome to the MINI family!

 

Perhaps MiniUSA needs to eliminate the ability for owner's to track every step of their vehicle. Without this tool most of us would not know that when our vehicles arrived which would eliminate the angst about having to wait. I am not saying that what they are doing is right, but in the end they provide us with a tool that perhaps is causing more trouble than it is worth...

 

That fact that you can go to a computer and build your car and change almost every little thing and really make a custom car. Then you can track its every detail from paint to boat ect. That's what makes these cars fun. It's the first thing my MA told me when I went to the dealer. To remove that would help nothing.

 

It would change the fact that customers would know when their car set sail and when the car was expected to arrive. If I can recall correctly, we were told at one point in time customers were able to call WW directly and MINI put an end to that. I just think that as customers we cannot have it both ways. We can not want to know every little detail about our vehicles and then become ready to end our deals with MINI or contact the BBB because we are being told to wait. In the end we were all told that from the date of production it would be 6-8 weeks before our cars have arrived. I have not heard one person say that it has been longer than the guaranteed time; however, I have heard folks complain about how their car is at the port and has not been taken to the dealer.

I do think that it drives me crazy having to wait, but I feel like it comes with the territory of having a custom made vehicle and being able to track its every step. My car completed production on July 4 and did not ship until yesterday. Yes, I did get on just about every second to complain about the wait; but I did not complain about MiniUSA as an entity. I complained about the wait.

 

I am now in my 9th week since ordered. I'm still not calling or being a pain to my dealer. But Mini should just say the cars are being held till ???. They should release the cars or tell us when they will be released. By them not saying anything makes me think that they will be released soon. Aug 1st and I'm OK with that. By the way my dealer said I would get my car in July!.

 

MINIbered, I agree completely. I want my car as soon as possible and I enjoy the 'game' of tracking it -- but MINIUSA is not in control of the entire process and things come up. I'll keep watching

Now, with that being said, I do have an issue with dealers telling anyone FIRM dates of when a car would be here (especially saying July for a 2013). They know better than to do that and it just smells of the more 'typical' dealer tactics that fortunately most MINI dealers are above.