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Goodbye
It looks like this will be my last post to this website. Unfortunately, do to the terrible service I have continued to receive at the local So Cal MINI dealer where I ordered my car, I cancelled my order this morning. I'm not going to name the dealership but I do want to say that this was absolutely the worst experience I have ever had when buying a new car - and I have bought/leased several new cars over the past few years. I'm talking about a sales manager that would return any phone calls and would tell me he would call me back and that wouldn't do so. Also, I couldn't get this person to commit to a solid lease agreement in writing. He easily accepted my $1K deposit but didn't want to commit to a deal in writing. Well, I know I can "ramble on" hear but I don't want to do so. Let's just say that this dealership made me feel like they were doing ME a favor selling me a car, NOT the other way around!! After much thought and consideration, I have decided that I am no longer interested in leasing a MINI and probably will not do so for the forseable future.
I want to thank everyone on the board for their helpful input and feedback. It is very much appreciated. And good luck to all.
JGS
I want to thank everyone on the board for their helpful input and feedback. It is very much appreciated. And good luck to all.
JGS
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JGS:
Give Julie at Classic MINI in Cleveland a call, she will treat you right.
Classic MINI is offering a $500 coupon on any of our in-stock demo's*! We have available Coopers and Cooper Convertibles! Call 800.388.1098 or email julie@driveclassic.com or mkost@driveclassic.com today for details!
Dave S.
MI MINI S
Bedford, OH
Give Julie at Classic MINI in Cleveland a call, she will treat you right.
Classic MINI is offering a $500 coupon on any of our in-stock demo's*! We have available Coopers and Cooper Convertibles! Call 800.388.1098 or email julie@driveclassic.com or mkost@driveclassic.com today for details!
Dave S.
MI MINI S
Bedford, OH
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Sorry
It's a shame this has happened.
It's a reflection of poor business management.
Send a letter to the General manager of this dealership and tell them about it and when enough people complain then maybe something will be done.
Whatever you do, don't buy or lease a Malibu- I've got one today as a rental and while it is nice and cushy, it just makes me MISS my MINI even more. Good thing I go back home in a few hours and can enjoy the ride before I black out from withdrawal.
Hey, maybe later on you can do business with a different dealer or buy a used MINI.
It's a reflection of poor business management.
Send a letter to the General manager of this dealership and tell them about it and when enough people complain then maybe something will be done.
Whatever you do, don't buy or lease a Malibu- I've got one today as a rental and while it is nice and cushy, it just makes me MISS my MINI even more. Good thing I go back home in a few hours and can enjoy the ride before I black out from withdrawal.
Hey, maybe later on you can do business with a different dealer or buy a used MINI.
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JGS,
I agree that a letter should be sent to the General Manager of the offending MINI Dealership along with a copy sent to MINIUSA Customer Relations.
There is simply no excuse for such unprofessional behavior, particularly when they accepted your $1,000 deposit.
Don't let this one dealership turn you off to the MINI. Many enthusiasts have gotten creative and gone out-of-state to purchase their MINIs. In addition to checking out Classic MINI's options, why not contact Murray in Salt Lake City, UT? That isn't too far away, and you'd have a lovely break-in ride motoring home.
Best wishes to you whichever route you take.
Cheers!
Clover
I agree that a letter should be sent to the General Manager of the offending MINI Dealership along with a copy sent to MINIUSA Customer Relations.
There is simply no excuse for such unprofessional behavior, particularly when they accepted your $1,000 deposit.
Don't let this one dealership turn you off to the MINI. Many enthusiasts have gotten creative and gone out-of-state to purchase their MINIs. In addition to checking out Classic MINI's options, why not contact Murray in Salt Lake City, UT? That isn't too far away, and you'd have a lovely break-in ride motoring home.
Best wishes to you whichever route you take.
Cheers!
Clover
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Bad experience with dealer
FWIW - I attempted to order a 2005 or 2006 Cooper from several dealers in So. Calif. So. Bay Mini in Torrance was completely cooperative in not only letting me order a 2006, but agreeing (in writing) that it would be at MSRP and that I could change my mind at any time and receive a refund of my $1K deposit. Naturally they couldn't tell me with certainty what the MSRP increase for a 2006 might be, and I don't know that you can negotiate a specific, to the dollar lease payment unless you know the money factor (i.e. interest rate), but if you really like the car, you might want to give a call to Freddie at So. Bay Mini. Believe the number is 310 939 7300.
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mini of pgh, pa offers free shipping-cleveland is dealing, i ordered CALVIN from towne, in buffalo, ny after a freind had goood dealings with them. CALVIN is through production and waiting to be shipped to new york-I am not yet sure if i am flying in and driving it home or shipping it, but the the PURCHASE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SMOOTHER!! I have spent my life in the car business and there is no excuse for some of the stories i hear from local socal dealers-after bob smith let me "simmer" for 3 days after telling them i would not pay anickel over msrp, they called to tell me they would lower the "over msrp" mark up from 3k to 2k over sticker!! I told the ma she was very nice and i would love to buy a car from her, but since her dealer principal is a rich, getting richer by gouging local customers type of owner, i would spend my money out of state. on a side note, i took a friends 04MCS there for service and the service advisor couldnt have been nicer, service was done quickly and the sa told me she was looking forward to helping me with CALVIN once he gets here. i would just get my deposit back and go elsewhere!! the car is worth it!
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Hey, Scott......(off-topic here).......considering the price of fuel, it may actually be worth it to have your MINI shipped to you! Just a suggestion....
When you factor in fuel, lodging, and meals, the shipping option begins to sound attractive, ALTHOUGH there is nothing quite as fine as flying east and motoring back in your new baby!
Clover
When you factor in fuel, lodging, and meals, the shipping option begins to sound attractive, ALTHOUGH there is nothing quite as fine as flying east and motoring back in your new baby!
Clover
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Originally Posted by minihune
Send a letter to the General manager of this dealership and tell them about it and when enough people complain then maybe something will be done.
Unfortunately, the lousy service appears to be endemic to BMW and Mini dealers in Southern CA and BMWNA couldn't care less as long as the dealers meet their numbers.
I have to agree with the poster. BMW has absolutely the worst attitude about customer satisfaction that I have ever seen in my many years of car ownership. It's a very myopic business practice and one of these years they will suffer the consequences.
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Originally Posted by stage1scott
it does appear it will cost me more to fly and drive than shipping-but-as you mentioned, the cross country trip is soooooo tempting. we will see what the next month brings. cant wait, either way, im reallys tarting to get excited!
Clover
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Originally Posted by jgs1564
It looks like this will be my last post to this website. Unfortunately, do to the terrible service I have continued to receive at the local So Cal MINI dealer where I ordered my car, I cancelled my order this morning. I'm not going to name the dealership but I do want to say that this was absolutely the worst experience I have ever had when buying a new car - and I have bought/leased several new cars over the past few years. I'm talking about a sales manager that would return any phone calls and would tell me he would call me back and that wouldn't do so. Also, I couldn't get this person to commit to a solid lease agreement in writing. He easily accepted my $1K deposit but didn't want to commit to a deal in writing. Well, I know I can "ramble on" hear but I don't want to do so. Let's just say that this dealership made me feel like they were doing ME a favor selling me a car, NOT the other way around!! After much thought and consideration, I have decided that I am no longer interested in leasing a MINI and probably will not do so for the forseable future.
I want to thank everyone on the board for their helpful input and feedback. It is very much appreciated. And good luck to all.
JGS
I want to thank everyone on the board for their helpful input and feedback. It is very much appreciated. And good luck to all.
JGS
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Perhaps some of the West Coast dealers are less responsive because the demand is still strong. Sales staff at my local MINI dealer ignored me every time I visited and even the BMW sales person I know there told me their MINI staff are snobs. And because (at that time) every dealer I called charged a markup I went north and got a salesman who took my deposit, but was reluctant to provide much information or take down my order for options ("Way too early to do that", said he). Thanks to a NAM member I got my deposit back and ordered my car through Julie at Classic in Ohio. She was very responsive. My car was trucked to California with 6 others and I got to meet nice NAM members (newbies and vets) when I picked it up. Now I have a MINI to drive instead of some ordinary car. So I hope you are following your thread and considering going through another dealer. Or good luck with your alternate choice. I admit there are one or two other cars that tempted me--less nift, but other bennies.
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Another vote for Southbay Mini
I would highly recommend SouthBay Mini in Torrance.
I purchased our first mini from, well a dealership about 47 miles south of Torrance, right off the 405. They were ok, but made one feel lucky to be purchasing from them.
Our second Mini was ordered through SouthBay and we are just about to take delivery (car is currently at the VDC in Oxnard). Southbay is no pressure, straight MSRP and very responsive to calls and emails. Our MA is Jamie. She is FANTASTIC
If you want to reconsider, give Southbay a whirl.
JB
I purchased our first mini from, well a dealership about 47 miles south of Torrance, right off the 405. They were ok, but made one feel lucky to be purchasing from them.
Our second Mini was ordered through SouthBay and we are just about to take delivery (car is currently at the VDC in Oxnard). Southbay is no pressure, straight MSRP and very responsive to calls and emails. Our MA is Jamie. She is FANTASTIC
If you want to reconsider, give Southbay a whirl.
JB
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