To S or not to S that is the question?
#76
08-05-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by greatgro
Uh that's b/c in stock form (which is usually how comparisons work), the S not only has more power, but a better suspension also. So you're talking about two models of the same car. One has more power AND better handling. So which are you going to choose in a straight up comparison??? :smile:
And don't most comparos say something like "you've got $20,000 to spend... go!" not "let's compare base car A to base car B, even though they have different prices" ?
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08-05-2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jds
I agree completely. For those of us who are enthusiasts and choose to drive a Cooper, it's because we simply like the car. Frankly, I just don't get the whole "go fast" thing....musta passed me by somehow
. My old Spitfire was quick and nible, but not particularly fast. Some frightfully good motoring though.
Automakers are throwing more powerful engines around like candy these days...even though the overall balance of the car may be crap. It's a non-starter, imo. To me, if you can't have a really rewarding, exhilerating motoring experience and still stay well within the law....that's just lame. Join the space program. Again, that's just me.
Getting +32 mpg is a big part of why I got a Cooper. It's an excellent daily driver, is quite capable, handles like a true MINI, is somewhat practical, AND is highly affordable. All that adds up to tons of fun...but perhaps of a different variety. The car balances so many of my driving priorities...and does it so blasted well...driving anything else, for me, would be less desirable...even a venerable MCS.
I do very much respect the wishes of those whose hobbies/passions include tracking and tuning their cars...we just have to remind ourselves, on occasion, that Minis are also very much about practical transport. That they offer a transcendent motoring experience at the same time is what legends are made of.
I'm delighted to see so many Cooper and MCS owners understand and embrace this reality.
. My old Spitfire was quick and nible, but not particularly fast. Some frightfully good motoring though.Automakers are throwing more powerful engines around like candy these days...even though the overall balance of the car may be crap. It's a non-starter, imo. To me, if you can't have a really rewarding, exhilerating motoring experience and still stay well within the law....that's just lame. Join the space program. Again, that's just me.
Getting +32 mpg is a big part of why I got a Cooper. It's an excellent daily driver, is quite capable, handles like a true MINI, is somewhat practical, AND is highly affordable. All that adds up to tons of fun...but perhaps of a different variety. The car balances so many of my driving priorities...and does it so blasted well...driving anything else, for me, would be less desirable...even a venerable MCS.
I do very much respect the wishes of those whose hobbies/passions include tracking and tuning their cars...we just have to remind ourselves, on occasion, that Minis are also very much about practical transport. That they offer a transcendent motoring experience at the same time is what legends are made of.
I'm delighted to see so many Cooper and MCS owners understand and embrace this reality.
I drove a VW Rabbit Diesel for years and LOVED getting 45+mpg in the city with AC on. I still had fun in that car and could pass cars on 2-lane roads with 4 surfboards on the roof. An Englishmen told me: "you must simply drive this car metal-to-metal, you see?" I digress, already.
IMHO, I would opt for performance over goodies anyday, but that's me.
#79
08-06-2005, 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by rednwhitecooper
this site is so S biased, its disgusting!!!!
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