Perceptions from non-MINI owners about the MINI?
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Originally Posted by BoCRon
I still don't get it, do you work in a high school? The whole idea of letting anyone else's opinion of what I drive have an effect on me would be laughable.
Everyone has made wonderful comments regarding my situation, and I really do appreciate it. I'm a little surprised by the number of respondents so far (a lot), but I guess MINI people are nothing if not passionate.
I agree that the MINI is a step or two above my old Beetle both in class and in demographic, so I am trying to take that into account. After hearing from so many of you that are in a similar situation as me, with the means for something more expensive anyway, I feel that I can make a much better case for the MINI with regard to the perceptions issue.
The one thing I really do have to take into account is the child seat issue that I mentioned earlier. While we will be adopting from China (we won't get her until she's almost a year old so the rear facing seat thing will be shorter than most) I still have to take into account how much of a pain it will be to deal with a small-ish two door car as an everyday car. My wife's current car is a two door coupe, and is not much better backseat wise.
Please continue to offer more advice on the perception issue though because future MINI noobs like me will be able to learn a lot from it.
Anyone that has insight into the child seat part is encouraged to take a look at my other thread covering that issue.
Thanks!
Mike
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Originally Posted by MikeK
The one thing I really do have to take into account is the child seat issue that I mentioned earlier. While we will be adopting from China (we won't get her until she's almost a year old so the rear facing seat thing will be shorter than most) I still have to take into account how much of a pain it will be to deal with a small-ish two door car as an everyday car. My wife's current car is a two door coupe, and is not much better backseat wise.
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Originally Posted by MikeK
It's just that I'm a little concerned about the image it portrays. My wife is concerned that it will come accross as being something of a toy, and I'd lose respect from businessmen that I work with. I realize that's caddy, but she does have a point about how people can perceive cars.
Mike
Mike
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Originally Posted by MikeK
Hi everyone,
First off let me say that is is an outstanding site! I'm a geek by trade and by nature and I love to be able to find forums for things of interest. This site does the MINI proud.
Here's my question. Does anyone here drive a MINI when they can afford something a whole lot more expensive? I've been looking at $40k cars recently, but I just drove a MINI for the first time, and I think I'm in love with the MCS (no surprise to everyone here I'm sure). It's just that I'm a little concerned about the image it portrays. My wife is concerned that it will come accross as being something of a toy.....
First off let me say that is is an outstanding site! I'm a geek by trade and by nature and I love to be able to find forums for things of interest. This site does the MINI proud.
Here's my question. Does anyone here drive a MINI when they can afford something a whole lot more expensive? I've been looking at $40k cars recently, but I just drove a MINI for the first time, and I think I'm in love with the MCS (no surprise to everyone here I'm sure). It's just that I'm a little concerned about the image it portrays. My wife is concerned that it will come accross as being something of a toy.....
I am comfortable in my skin, and don't care what other's think of my car.....my neighbor's BMW745 is nice, but I don't need that big of a car...even when my wife and 2 year old want to go for a roadtrip, either......my wife drives a Volvo Station wagon, and my other car is a Yamaha Royal Star.....
Sounds to me like you are not comfortable, and need other's approval....maybe a self esteem or self help conference is in order.....(OK, that was not nice...I am sorry, but it is meant a bit sarcastic)
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Originally Posted by nvus111
Sounds to me like you are not comfortable, and need other's approval....maybe a self esteem or self help conference is in order.....(OK, that was not nice...I am sorry, but it is meant a bit sarcastic)
I have no issues personally, but there are absolutely professions where the car you drive can make a difference as to how you are perceived, and how far you'll go in the company. I'm not sure how a MINI will play to the audiences that I have, so I just wanted to hear other people's experiences.
I'm glad it's worked out well for you, and I hope it does so for me as well.
Cheers!
Mike
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Hmm... I always wondered why when ever I get a survey after buying a car the key concern is what image the car portrayed and how that influenced my desire to purchase. Never anything about how it performs as a car. I used to think that it was the steering feel, grip and performance level, the positioning of the pedals that swayed me one way or the other. If I think a bit more deeply about my recent decision to buy a MCS, perhaps the marketeers are correct; it is all about image. After all, with three Porsches, I suffer treble damages to my ego what with all that talk about P-car ownership as compensating for the size of my manhood. So maybe, this purchase was indeed the product of a subconscious Freudian desire. I suppose I had to buy an MCS as if it has to be small, it oughta at least be cute.
Seriously though, like all cars the Mini has its strengths and weaknessses. I'd evalute it on that basis. If at the end of the day you're looking for tipping points one way or the other, then by all means sum up whatever intangibles you'd care to. If image is one of them, knock yourself out. But frankly, having just gone through this exercise, in this or any other price range, there is no comparable car to the Mini. Its pretty unique in terms of US available roadcars. There are some that are perhaps as competent, but few with its level of road feel and certainly none with 1/100th the personality. Best of luck with whatever you decide.
Seriously though, like all cars the Mini has its strengths and weaknessses. I'd evalute it on that basis. If at the end of the day you're looking for tipping points one way or the other, then by all means sum up whatever intangibles you'd care to. If image is one of them, knock yourself out. But frankly, having just gone through this exercise, in this or any other price range, there is no comparable car to the Mini. Its pretty unique in terms of US available roadcars. There are some that are perhaps as competent, but few with its level of road feel and certainly none with 1/100th the personality. Best of luck with whatever you decide.
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Congratulations to you and Mrs Mike for bringing a lucky baby into our side of town I'm Chinese (so we don't have to do takeout ) and I DO know what's so great about this country As for the seating situation, we've done this many many times and it's been worth it everytime even though we've had the luxury of driving our other "spacious" SUV instead. A few extra moments of elbow time is worth the safety and the blissful drive in the Mini. Sides, I take advantage of these intimate moments to steal smooches from the little guys. The Mini's not the most practical car you can buy but neither is adopting a child from China. You won't regret either
Thank you MSFITOY.
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Hmm... I've had a totally different experiance than many posters on this thread. I am 31 and work for a large Pharma and take home a sizeable income (by most people's account). My wife is a tenured Professor at a nearby University. We own a house in a nice part of NJ not too far from NYC. We travel considerably for business and pleasure. We have 2 boys (5 and 3)... AND WE HAVE A MCS (on order)!!!!
Who's to say what's "professional" or not? Heck, EVERYONE I've mentioned that I'm buying a Mini has pretty much given me a big thumbs up! People at work, parents, inlaws even my 87 year old grandparents think its great!
I too work in an environment where it is important to act and appear professional and I can't imagine that what car you buy would somehow affect others perception of you... unless they were already looking for a reason to not like you! Heck, as long as I continue to do a good job and keep out clients happy I don't think anyone could give a rats a$$ about what I do on my free time!
Who's to say what's "professional" or not? Heck, EVERYONE I've mentioned that I'm buying a Mini has pretty much given me a big thumbs up! People at work, parents, inlaws even my 87 year old grandparents think its great!
I too work in an environment where it is important to act and appear professional and I can't imagine that what car you buy would somehow affect others perception of you... unless they were already looking for a reason to not like you! Heck, as long as I continue to do a good job and keep out clients happy I don't think anyone could give a rats a$$ about what I do on my free time!
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Originally Posted by MikeK
II have no issues personally, but there are absolutely professions where the car you drive can make a difference as to how you are perceived, and how far you'll go in the company.
SUV's are over, Cadillacs and Mercedes are always a safe bet to conservatively impress, Volvos are really the 80's, VW's are nice enough, and one asian import looks pretty much like the rest. Pick'em'ups, everyone's got one. Hummers, not that cool now with oil wars going on across the globe.
I guess if Madonna and Jennifer Hewit can drive them, then I can to.
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I'll bet dollars to donuts, it the wife's way of subliminally VETO'ing the small car, now that she may have a new baby on the way. She needs to see the crash photos where the passenger compartment of the F150 is folded up like a pretzel around the crash dummy and the MINI passenger compartment is left relatively intact, all after a 40mph run into a fixed object. Wives are like that, remember it's easier to be forgiven after the fact than to get permission prior to...
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I always get positive reactions to the MINI-no matter who I am talking to. People like things that are fun and different (even if they don't think it is the right car for them)..............................I am thinking that if this is really an issue to someone that a MINI just isn't right for that person. It isn't right for everyone..........
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Originally Posted by MikeK
Here's my question. Does anyone here drive a MINI when they can afford something a whole lot more expensive? I've been looking at $40k cars recently, but ... I think I'm in love with the MCS. I'm a little concerned about the image it portrays. My wife is concerned that I'd lose respect from businessmen that I work with.
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I would really like to narrow this down to whether this is about a concern about what other's think or would this possibly have any actual affect on your jobs. So Mike K... what affect on your jobs could this have. I read your post about what you do for a living and it doesn't seem to me that your job could be afected in any way. but I am not in IT and I don't know so maybe you could clarify. I also saw that you said your wife is a lawyer at a large firm. Is that right? Does she ever drive clients around? Would this perception problem then come forth? Would her bosses expect her to have a large expensive car? If answering these questions is difficult then maybe its more what is in you and your wife's mind than in other people's mind. If that's the case, forget about perceptions and get the MINI. With all that has been said I don't want you to lose touch with how great the MINI is and how it is so worth owning.
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Originally Posted by CDMINI
I'll bet dollars to donuts, it the wife's way of subliminally VETO'ing the small car, now that she may have a new baby on the way. She needs to see the crash photos where the passenger compartment of the F150 is folded up like a pretzel around the crash dummy and the MINI passenger compartment is left relatively intact, all after a 40mph run into a fixed object. Wives are like that, remember it's easier to be forgiven after the fact than to get permission prior to...
Mike
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Originally Posted by Electric Shock
I would really like to narrow this down to whether this is about a concern about what other's think or would this possibly have any actual affect on your jobs. So Mike K... what affect on your jobs could this have. I read your post about what you do for a living and it doesn't seem to me that your job could be afected in any way. but I am not in IT and I don't know so maybe you could clarify. I also saw that you said your wife is a lawyer at a large firm. Is that right? Does she ever drive clients around? Would this perception problem then come forth? Would her bosses expect her to have a large expensive car? If answering these questions is difficult then maybe its more what is in you and your wife's mind than in other people's mind. If that's the case, forget about perceptions and get the MINI. With all that has been said I don't want you to lose touch with how great the MINI is and how it is so worth owning.
Now that this thread is almost three pages long, and people like you have made some very good points, it seems as though the issue may just be our own issue. Maybe we both just need to allow ourselves to enjoy driving, I mean motoring as you all like to call it.
Thanks again to everyone for the insight and constructive criticism.
Mike
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Originally Posted by MikeK
The big concern that we have ... is that her employers will think it odd that we aren't spending money on prestige cars like they do.
Seriously!
I'm an attorney, I drive a MCS and if anyone ever questioned my decision to purchase my choice of transportation I'd have a few choice words for them that can't be mentioned on this family site.
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I'm in a position to get a more expensive car as well, but I love the mini, and I really don't care much about any negative thoughts. Life is too short for that.
As for the kid issue, I have two little girls (3 and 19 mo.) and I would reccomend the convertible! Before ordering my car I brought the older one into the showroom with the child seat (front facing) to see if she would be comfortable in it. The kids won't ride in it often, as the kid mobile is a Volvo V70R, but for little trips to the beach I wanted to make sure they would be happy.
What I found is that the convertible is the easiest car I've ever put a kid in. Simply lower the top, walk around the side of the car, place the kid in the seat, buckle him/her up, and then raise the top if its too cold. Otherwise, leave it down and get them a cool pair of sunglasses.
As for the kid issue, I have two little girls (3 and 19 mo.) and I would reccomend the convertible! Before ordering my car I brought the older one into the showroom with the child seat (front facing) to see if she would be comfortable in it. The kids won't ride in it often, as the kid mobile is a Volvo V70R, but for little trips to the beach I wanted to make sure they would be happy.
What I found is that the convertible is the easiest car I've ever put a kid in. Simply lower the top, walk around the side of the car, place the kid in the seat, buckle him/her up, and then raise the top if its too cold. Otherwise, leave it down and get them a cool pair of sunglasses.
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Originally Posted by MikeK
You're right, it has nothing to do with my job since I don't drive clients around or anything. My wife would likely not drive it to work ever, and she's a young associate, so driving clients and things around isn't an issue either. The big concern that we have, other than the child thing that may or may not be an issue, is that her employers will think it odd that we aren't spending money on prestige cars like they do.
Now that this thread is almost three pages long, and people like you have made some very good points, it seems as though the issue may just be our own issue. Maybe we both just need to allow ourselves to enjoy driving, I mean motoring as you all like to call it.
Thanks again to everyone for the insight and constructive criticism.
Mike
Now that this thread is almost three pages long, and people like you have made some very good points, it seems as though the issue may just be our own issue. Maybe we both just need to allow ourselves to enjoy driving, I mean motoring as you all like to call it.
Thanks again to everyone for the insight and constructive criticism.
Mike
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