Lead time and markup
#1
Lead time and markup
[SIZE=2]Hi,
I'm new to the club (actually not quite in the club yet - not until I decide to order). I have a number of questions I hope someone could answer. Please bear with me as I'm new to all this.
I was talking to an advisor at a MINI dealer in northern California and he said I can get a MC 1 month after I order it (with a markup of $1K). My questions are:
- Is that a realistic time frame or is the dealer just quote me that to get the business? I've read people on this forum with > 6 month lead time.
- Seems like markup is a standard practice considering how popular MINI is. Is that how much you paid for your MINI?
- Do MINI dealers typically charge Advertising fees (like other car dealers) or is MSRP (plus any markup) all you need to pay?
Many thanks in advance
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I'm new to the club (actually not quite in the club yet - not until I decide to order). I have a number of questions I hope someone could answer. Please bear with me as I'm new to all this.
I was talking to an advisor at a MINI dealer in northern California and he said I can get a MC 1 month after I order it (with a markup of $1K). My questions are:
- Is that a realistic time frame or is the dealer just quote me that to get the business? I've read people on this forum with > 6 month lead time.
- Seems like markup is a standard practice considering how popular MINI is. Is that how much you paid for your MINI?
- Do MINI dealers typically charge Advertising fees (like other car dealers) or is MSRP (plus any markup) all you need to pay?
Many thanks in advance
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#4
Markup...
Order one out of state and you won't have a markup and may even get it quicker. I just ordered mine a week ago from Kansas City, Baron MINI, and was quoted Late Feb-Early March delivery. I think each dealership only gets a portion of each production group and thats why some dealerships have a 6 month wait, because they are that booked and some of their orders are put on hold for a while.
-Larkin
-Larkin
#5
#6
Originally Posted by motoring101
[SIZE=2]Hi,
I'm new to the club (actually not quite in the club yet - not until I decide to order). I have a number of questions I hope someone could answer. Please bear with me as I'm new to all this.
I was talking to an advisor at a MINI dealer in northern California and he said I can get a MC 1 month after I order it (with a markup of $1K). My questions are:
- Is that a realistic time frame or is the dealer just quote me that to get the business? I've read people on this forum with > 6 month lead time.
- Seems like markup is a standard practice considering how popular MINI is. Is that how much you paid for your MINI?
- Do MINI dealers typically charge Advertising fees (like other car dealers) or is MSRP (plus any markup) all you need to pay?
Many thanks in advance
[/SIZE]
I'm new to the club (actually not quite in the club yet - not until I decide to order). I have a number of questions I hope someone could answer. Please bear with me as I'm new to all this.
I was talking to an advisor at a MINI dealer in northern California and he said I can get a MC 1 month after I order it (with a markup of $1K). My questions are:
- Is that a realistic time frame or is the dealer just quote me that to get the business? I've read people on this forum with > 6 month lead time.
- Seems like markup is a standard practice considering how popular MINI is. Is that how much you paid for your MINI?
- Do MINI dealers typically charge Advertising fees (like other car dealers) or is MSRP (plus any markup) all you need to pay?
Many thanks in advance
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It is certainly possible to get a car at MSRP (with no funny fees either) without a 6 month waiting period: you can check with the MSRP Cali dealers - East Bay MINI in Pleasanton, South Bay MINI in Torrance, Long Beach MINI are the ones that come to mind; call the others to find out what they have in stock/coming in and tell them you would buy it only at MSRP and see if they would agree; or see about picking up a car out of state. If you search here on NAM in California Dealers, etc, you will find out a lot about what others have done and suggest.
#7
Do you have some vacation time coming up?
Why not order from a MidWest dealer such as D&R Mini in Indy and do the break in on the drive back to Cali?
Richard, my MA at D&R said MIB would take 8 weeks and it took 8 weeks. I paid sticker price and had no Dealer Markup?
If you do buy from D&R tell them DrDiff sent you!
Why not order from a MidWest dealer such as D&R Mini in Indy and do the break in on the drive back to Cali?
Richard, my MA at D&R said MIB would take 8 weeks and it took 8 weeks. I paid sticker price and had no Dealer Markup?
If you do buy from D&R tell them DrDiff sent you!
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Larkin W.,
To whom did you talk to at Baron? (Kind of related: I bought my '02 Golf from Baron VW -- and while waiting for the dealership to finish the paperwork on my VW Golf purchase I walked across lot and viewed the new MINIs -- and bought my '02 Porsche just across I-35 at the Porsche dealer, so I'm very familiar with that area.)
How did you specify the options: That is, what method did you use to convey how you wanted the car optioned?
Did you get some hardcopy confirmation back so you were sure the car was at least ordered as you wanted it?
What downpayment arrangement did you make? Personal check? Wired the money? E-transfer? What about payment when the car comes in and after you verify car is as ordered and in good condition?
I travel to the KC Mo area every so often and could very well order my MCS from Baron and then when it comes in drive a one way rental car there and pick up the car, then do my business in the area and when finished drive the new MCS back to CA.
Oh, which reminds me? How can one who lives in CA and of course must be able to register the car in CA when ordering a car out of CA ensure the car comes with whatever is necessary to allow a no problem registration in CA?
Lots of questions I know. Would appreciate whatever you care to share.
Sincerely,
RockC.
To whom did you talk to at Baron? (Kind of related: I bought my '02 Golf from Baron VW -- and while waiting for the dealership to finish the paperwork on my VW Golf purchase I walked across lot and viewed the new MINIs -- and bought my '02 Porsche just across I-35 at the Porsche dealer, so I'm very familiar with that area.)
How did you specify the options: That is, what method did you use to convey how you wanted the car optioned?
Did you get some hardcopy confirmation back so you were sure the car was at least ordered as you wanted it?
What downpayment arrangement did you make? Personal check? Wired the money? E-transfer? What about payment when the car comes in and after you verify car is as ordered and in good condition?
I travel to the KC Mo area every so often and could very well order my MCS from Baron and then when it comes in drive a one way rental car there and pick up the car, then do my business in the area and when finished drive the new MCS back to CA.
Oh, which reminds me? How can one who lives in CA and of course must be able to register the car in CA when ordering a car out of CA ensure the car comes with whatever is necessary to allow a no problem registration in CA?
Lots of questions I know. Would appreciate whatever you care to share.
Sincerely,
RockC.
#9
Originally Posted by RockC
Larkin W.,
To whom did you talk to at Baron?
To whom did you talk to at Baron?
Baron MINI
9010 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Merriam, KS 66202
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Direct line:
913-671-1406Main:
913-722-5100
Email:
lfoell@baronauto.com
How did you specify the options: That is, what method did you use to convey how you wanted the car optioned?
Did you get some hardcopy confirmation back so you were sure the car was at least ordered as you wanted it?
What downpayment arrangement did you make? Personal check? Wired the money? E-transfer? What about payment when the car comes in and after you verify car is as ordered and in good condition?
#10
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info.
I'm going to be in touch with the dealer soon.
If I get the warm/fuzzies talking to the dealership, I'll get an '06 MCS on order ASAP!
Approx. 8 weeks out ought to put it in the spring t-storm/severe strom season... On the way back from picking car up I can go tornado chasing in my new MINI!
Sincerely,
RockC.
I'm going to be in touch with the dealer soon.
If I get the warm/fuzzies talking to the dealership, I'll get an '06 MCS on order ASAP!
Approx. 8 weeks out ought to put it in the spring t-storm/severe strom season... On the way back from picking car up I can go tornado chasing in my new MINI!
Sincerely,
RockC.
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#12
Motoring101:
Where in N. California are you?
In addition to markup, it's always good to ask about out-the-door fees, like "doc fees" etc. Some MSRP dealers still charge these types of fees and some markup dealers do as well.
The short answer is that the Bay Area dealers all markup and/or have annoying fees -- I've heard that East Bay MINI's fees get close to the markup of the other 3.
After reading all the posts, asking some of these same questions, and talking to dealers nationwide, I settled on Long Beach MINI. They had an allocation slot for this week available in mid-late November. Given a 3 week crossing (avg.) and a few days of VPC and dealer time, I figure it will be about 3.5 months total wait for MSRP + zero stupidity fees.
Oh, and I got my VIN today. So hopefully I down to 5 more weeks...
--dwf
Where in N. California are you?
In addition to markup, it's always good to ask about out-the-door fees, like "doc fees" etc. Some MSRP dealers still charge these types of fees and some markup dealers do as well.
The short answer is that the Bay Area dealers all markup and/or have annoying fees -- I've heard that East Bay MINI's fees get close to the markup of the other 3.
After reading all the posts, asking some of these same questions, and talking to dealers nationwide, I settled on Long Beach MINI. They had an allocation slot for this week available in mid-late November. Given a 3 week crossing (avg.) and a few days of VPC and dealer time, I figure it will be about 3.5 months total wait for MSRP + zero stupidity fees.
Oh, and I got my VIN today. So hopefully I down to 5 more weeks...
--dwf
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