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Old 08-30-2012, 06:01 PM
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In pennsylvania, it's 3 times to the dealership for the same problem in 12 months, whether it's repaired or not.
 
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This is absolutely horrible advice. All you will accomplish is hurting your credit, needlessly owing much more in interest and penalties, and potentially having your car repossessed and owing more legal fees on top of that. DO NOT DO THIS! The entity that holds your car loan (assuming you financed it at the dealer it's likely BMW Bank of North America) has nothing to do with the entity that warranties your car. Look at your warranty manual...it's "The Mini division of BMW NA". They are the entity responsible for the warranty, and if they refuse to make the required repairs, you need to bring a legal action against them (if it were me I would initially include the dealer as a Defendant too). If you stop making payments, the bank will deny that they have any responsibility for providing repairs, and you will be (legitimately) subject to all the problems I mentioned above.
Who said anything about stopping making car payments Einstein? You're the master of misrepresentation, exaggeration and fear - not to mention deciding for him that he has no Lemon Law case. I was referring to ONE unjustified service dept bill. Get a grip.
 
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:03 PM
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In pennsylvania, it's 3 times to the dealership for the same problem in 12 months, whether it's repaired or not.
Grawk, that's not correct. Take a look at the PA Attorney General's website. If your car has now been repaired, you have no cause of action under the PA Lemon Law. Just trying to help because I've been there...
 
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Sorry Starman, my apologies. When you said "stop payment" I thought you meant the car loan payment.

But he really doesn't have a valid Lemon Law claim in PA at this time. If he were to sue the manufacturer, the manufacturer's defense would simply be that his car has been repaired.
 
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This is true, I'll have to wait until it fails a fourth time, at which point, the 3rd will have been unsuccessful. At this point, I'm assuming that once a month, I'm going to get a check engine light because the fuel pressure pump has failed, and that each time, the dealer will give me a new, bizarro explanation as to why it happened.
 
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Exactly. The next time it happens (or maybe they repaired it correctly this time), don't take it to the dealer, call the manufacturer as described on the Attorney General website. No doubt they will arrange to have it "fixed" again by the dealer (and you would hope that with Mini's supervision they would repair it correctly), and you will have to wait until the 4th repair fails before you can file for arbitration. It's a real PITA, but unfortuantely that's how it is. If you do end up going to arbitration I wonder if at that point you could combine your reimbursement claim (for the repairs you paid for) into the action. I don't know, but an experienced Lemon Law attorney should be able to tell you.
 
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So, it took until this month for the 4th failure. Seems like maybe it's a problem with heat expansion. This time, mini owned up to the design problem, refunded the money spent on past problems and fixed it. They replaced the gas tank, so hopefully no more problems.
 
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It's back again. Wife's investigating lemon law remedys, rather than taking the car to mini at this point.
 
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:36 PM
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And proceedings have begun. We just sent off the certified demand letter.
 
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Good luck, please keep us informed.
 
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:25 PM
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They say they're buying it back or swapping a new one onto our loan. We'll see. I'm still skeptical.
 
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They say they're buying it back or swapping a new one onto our loan. We'll see. I'm still skeptical.
We were skeptical at this point, too, when we were told exactly what you have been. In our case, it took far too long, but the formal approvals from BMW did eventually come through. Hope you do not have to wait as long as we did. Let us know, good luck.
 
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