F60 Countryman PHEV battery health and EV drivetrain question
#1
Countryman PHEV battery health and EV drivetrain question
I’m considering purchasing a used (out of warranty) 40k mile 2019 Countryman PHEV. It’s in fantastic interior/exterior condition and drives excellently.
-How does one go about checking the condition of its EV battery? I've scheduled a diagnostic appointment (1 labor hour) with a nearby Mini dealership tomorrow to check the car for any issues, with emphasis on battery health, but I don't know what they actually do enough to confirm their work.
-What other BMW models share its EV drivetrain?
-What should I expect in terms of its potential resale value and repairability over the next 5-10 years during which I plan to own it?
Thanks in advance.
-How does one go about checking the condition of its EV battery? I've scheduled a diagnostic appointment (1 labor hour) with a nearby Mini dealership tomorrow to check the car for any issues, with emphasis on battery health, but I don't know what they actually do enough to confirm their work.
-What other BMW models share its EV drivetrain?
-What should I expect in terms of its potential resale value and repairability over the next 5-10 years during which I plan to own it?
Thanks in advance.
#2
A little basics, the F60 shares the chassis and many under-the-covers parts with the BMW X1 of the same years. I purchased a used 2018 F60 SE in 2020 with 25k miles and have had no issues whatsoever. I only occasionally put it on a plug in charger and do that as a means of exercising the battery. IDK if thiat actually helps. I now have 110k miles on it, change the oil religously appx 7k miles, replaced the plugs around 80k miles, more for preventive maint than required.
Re battery health, I'd also like to know if the dealer can provide a battery health status report. I don't know of anything in the onboard computer showing health, only charge status. If you learn of something on this please post.
One note, the MINI supplied plug-in charger started to occasionally error out in 2021 (a red warning light on the unit flashing and no charging), pulling the plug and allowing to self-reset fixed it for a while, eventually failing regularly. I picked up an inexpensive Lvl1/Lvl2 charger off Amazon that came with a 110/220 adapter and continued to use it with a 110 outlet in the garage. No issues with this.
Final note. the battery in the F60SE is ~10-12 mile battery. It isn't meant to drive a major distance. It is meant for a run to the grocery store, getting out of town to the highway, etc, and it does this very well. Mixed city driving on battery and ICE I average ~40mpg. Open highway I get about 37 mpg on ICE in regular driving mode, a little more in green mode. Regular mode allows for regen charging when you coast - you feel the drag, and green changes the turbo boost and fuel mix and disables regen on coasting, keeps regen on braking. Mind you this is in CO with hwy 75mph, traffic regularly 80-85 when flowing well. In Sport mode this is a little beast with the instant accel from traction helping the ICE when under full acceleration!
Re battery health, I'd also like to know if the dealer can provide a battery health status report. I don't know of anything in the onboard computer showing health, only charge status. If you learn of something on this please post.
One note, the MINI supplied plug-in charger started to occasionally error out in 2021 (a red warning light on the unit flashing and no charging), pulling the plug and allowing to self-reset fixed it for a while, eventually failing regularly. I picked up an inexpensive Lvl1/Lvl2 charger off Amazon that came with a 110/220 adapter and continued to use it with a 110 outlet in the garage. No issues with this.
Final note. the battery in the F60SE is ~10-12 mile battery. It isn't meant to drive a major distance. It is meant for a run to the grocery store, getting out of town to the highway, etc, and it does this very well. Mixed city driving on battery and ICE I average ~40mpg. Open highway I get about 37 mpg on ICE in regular driving mode, a little more in green mode. Regular mode allows for regen charging when you coast - you feel the drag, and green changes the turbo boost and fuel mix and disables regen on coasting, keeps regen on braking. Mind you this is in CO with hwy 75mph, traffic regularly 80-85 when flowing well. In Sport mode this is a little beast with the instant accel from traction helping the ICE when under full acceleration!
Last edited by ApexF60SE; 11-19-2023 at 12:37 PM.
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I'll add - when I got my 2018 Countryman E it would hold as much as 18 miles on a charge. That was at 25K. Today I'm at 45K and I can't get the batteries to ever register or drive more than about 11-13miles. So as Apex poster noted, this is really for driving around town, but it does that brilliantly if you are religious about plugging it in at home once back from the milk run. I have taken it into deep snow (CA-Tahoe) and was impressed with its handling.
This is a great car if you're OK with the very-limited battery range.
This is a great car if you're OK with the very-limited battery range.
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