Bytetronik Remote Mapping (RM) Service - Steps and Procedures
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Bytetronik Remote Mapping (RM) Service - Steps and Procedures
For FA customers who wish to subscribe to the custom Remote Mapping (RM) Service, we would like to put forth the following procedures so that everyone is on the same page.
BEFORE we proceed with the Remote Mapping (RM) Service, you must perform the following:
I. After you have loaded FA onto you MINI, leave it in it's current form and log, log, log.
II. Spend one full week and get familiar with the logging process as well as what the various values mean.
III. If you want additional help in understanding the logs, post your questions on the NAM FAQ thread.
The reason for this is to set forth a better understanding of your car and its behavior. With the data-logging feature, you now have access to A LOT of information that were 'hidden' from you before. So it's your duty to understand what they all mean and establish a good basis of your starting point. This way, when you actually start tweaking with the maps, you are better able to identify what is 'normal' and what is abnormal.
Once you have done the above step, then we can proceed to the Remote Mapping Service. For FA53 Customers, there is a fee of $300 Custom Remote Mapping setup (for etiher M45 or the Sprintex).
There have been some confusion regarding RM vs Canned tuning; We have put forth some FAQs on Remote Mapping and address them here on this thread.
1. How is the Bytetronik FA Kit different than other "remote tuning" or CANNED flashing devices?
Answer: All other flashing devices on the market are just pass-thru devices = they allow you to upload and download maps from your tuner with no data-feedback back to the tuner. However, with FA53, we have data-logging and that's the most a tuner can ask for. Unlike other remote flashing device, FA has built-in data-logging that provides your tuner with real info from the ECU. And as a FA owner, you have the info at your disposal to check the tune and view the data logs to see the health status of your motor.
2. How much HP is left on the table with a RM from Bytetornik?
Answer: None. Even if we were to tune your car on a dyno, we still tune the same way as we would if we were next to your car on the dyno. The only thing we won't be able to do is to spot any mechanical or potential mechanical issues that might be present (and that's where the customer feedbacks are ABSOLUTELY critical - if you feel or see anything abnormal during the runs, let off the gas and go easy; then send us the logs so we can help you diagnose the problem).
3. How is a Canned Tuned different than a Custom Remote Mapping (RM) from Bytetronik?
Answer: A canned tune is basically a preset-map that's approximated for a specific of mods. It's pretty much a generic tune for a set of mods. With the Custom RM, we take into account all the variables and the exact running conditions of your upgraded parts along with your intake temp and gas type. Along with your AFR readings, we have a total picture of what your car is doing and we provide the custom mappings specifically for your MINI.
4. Do I need a wide-band in order for RM to work for my MINI?
Answer: Yes. The FA Tuning kit supports direct-logging from the Innovate LC1 and MTX-L AFR kit. In order for RM to be performed on your MINI, you MUST have one of these wide-band kits.
5. What should my HP be with the mods that I have?
Answer: "People tend to forget or just don't realize that tuning isn't about "Cranking It Up To The Max", it's more about balance & efficiency, hp will come with efficency, the less strain a motor has to endure to achieve it's goal (efficency) the easier it will reach that goal." - BlwnAway's quote from NAM.
With all of our tuning, it's not about getting the most HP. It's all about maximizing the optimal Air-to-Fuel Mixture to enable the engine to run at it's optimal. Along with raising the torque limiters and ecu parameters, the HP naturally increases.
So if you come across a tuner who says "I can give you 250whp" with your mods... you should turn around and run as fast as you can. A good engine calibrator (good tuner) will only make as much HP as the engine allows it - that's the key. The hardware components dictates maximum output - not your tuner.
6. Do I need to use a Dyno for a RM session?
Answer: This is entirely up to you. We only suggest the use of dyno as a measuring tool and as a road safety factor. If you live in a place where you can not safely perform the WOT logs, then please utilize a dyno facility.
But road logging is actually preferred b/c it is real life. The use of certain type of dyno is actually not that good b/c it doesn't provide the proper load - thus it doesn't simulate real-life conditions. So use your best discretion
***WARNING: Do NOT perform data logging in unsafe driving conditions! Driving above the speed limits will result in traffic citations and/or jail time - in extreme cases***.
BEFORE we proceed with the Remote Mapping (RM) Service, you must perform the following:
I. After you have loaded FA onto you MINI, leave it in it's current form and log, log, log.
II. Spend one full week and get familiar with the logging process as well as what the various values mean.
III. If you want additional help in understanding the logs, post your questions on the NAM FAQ thread.
The reason for this is to set forth a better understanding of your car and its behavior. With the data-logging feature, you now have access to A LOT of information that were 'hidden' from you before. So it's your duty to understand what they all mean and establish a good basis of your starting point. This way, when you actually start tweaking with the maps, you are better able to identify what is 'normal' and what is abnormal.
Once you have done the above step, then we can proceed to the Remote Mapping Service. For FA53 Customers, there is a fee of $300 Custom Remote Mapping setup (for etiher M45 or the Sprintex).
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RM will happen in three different Steps, and we will proceed in order:
Step 1) Cold Engine Start-up log; Idle log and Cruising log
1A) Cold Engine Start Up: On cold engine connect miniport to your obdii before igniting the car. While the leds start flashing showing that data are logged, crank your engine and let it log 2 minutes of idle.
Step 1) Cold Engine Start-up log; Idle log and Cruising log
1A) Cold Engine Start Up: On cold engine connect miniport to your obdii before igniting the car. While the leds start flashing showing that data are logged, crank your engine and let it log 2 minutes of idle.
1B) Idle Log: Let the engine idle for 2 minutes on its own without any interferrence (do not press on the gas pedal or turn on AC).
1C) Cruising Log: Log the car on cruising in 6th gear for 2 minutes - be sure to hold the gas pedal at a steady angle.
(If you are upgrading to the Bosch 550cc Injectors, we want you to perform Step 1 on your current stock or JCW injectors first; then we will provide you a base 550 map based on these logs. Once the 550s are installed into your car, we want you to REPEAT Step 1 with the 550s).
Step 2) Logs for Soft Acceleration*:
2A) Log 2nd gear soft accelaration from 2000rpm till 5000rpm. This must be done on a flat road with no traffic ahead. Accelaration must be really soft lineary and slowly accelarating staying off boost and without being hard and steep with the gas pedal.
2A) Log 2nd gear soft accelaration from 2000rpm till 5000rpm. This must be done on a flat road with no traffic ahead. Accelaration must be really soft lineary and slowly accelarating staying off boost and without being hard and steep with the gas pedal.
2B) Log 3rd gear soft acceleration from 2200rpm till 5000rpm (same as 2A above).
Step 3) Only do the WOT (Wide-Open-Throttle) Log when requested by the Tuner*:
3A) Log 3rd gear WOT, press the pedal 100% from 2000rpm to 6000rpm. If the AFR goes above 12.5, then let off the gas immediately.
3B) Log 3rd gear WOT from 2500 to 6800rpm while keeping a close eye on the road and the AFR gauge. Let off if AFR spikes above 12.5.
3A) Log 3rd gear WOT, press the pedal 100% from 2000rpm to 6000rpm. If the AFR goes above 12.5, then let off the gas immediately.
3B) Log 3rd gear WOT from 2500 to 6800rpm while keeping a close eye on the road and the AFR gauge. Let off if AFR spikes above 12.5.
*CAUTION:
1. Overall, you must becareful when performing these logs only when the condition on the freeway is safe for you to perform this task.
2. If the conditions are not right, just redo the log at a later time. Road safety is first and foremost.
2. If the conditions are not right, just redo the log at a later time. Road safety is first and foremost.
Proper Way to Clear Adaptations from ECU's Memory:
- Only Clear Adaptations when instructed to do so.
- After you hit the “Clear All Adaptations” command, turn ignition to OFF and leave the car alone for 5 full minutes.
- Only Clear Adaptations when instructed to do so.
- After you hit the “Clear All Adaptations” command, turn ignition to OFF and leave the car alone for 5 full minutes.
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FAQs:
FAQs:
There have been some confusion regarding RM vs Canned tuning; We have put forth some FAQs on Remote Mapping and address them here on this thread.
1. How is the Bytetronik FA Kit different than other "remote tuning" or CANNED flashing devices?
Answer: All other flashing devices on the market are just pass-thru devices = they allow you to upload and download maps from your tuner with no data-feedback back to the tuner. However, with FA53, we have data-logging and that's the most a tuner can ask for. Unlike other remote flashing device, FA has built-in data-logging that provides your tuner with real info from the ECU. And as a FA owner, you have the info at your disposal to check the tune and view the data logs to see the health status of your motor.
2. How much HP is left on the table with a RM from Bytetornik?
Answer: None. Even if we were to tune your car on a dyno, we still tune the same way as we would if we were next to your car on the dyno. The only thing we won't be able to do is to spot any mechanical or potential mechanical issues that might be present (and that's where the customer feedbacks are ABSOLUTELY critical - if you feel or see anything abnormal during the runs, let off the gas and go easy; then send us the logs so we can help you diagnose the problem).
3. How is a Canned Tuned different than a Custom Remote Mapping (RM) from Bytetronik?
Answer: A canned tune is basically a preset-map that's approximated for a specific of mods. It's pretty much a generic tune for a set of mods. With the Custom RM, we take into account all the variables and the exact running conditions of your upgraded parts along with your intake temp and gas type. Along with your AFR readings, we have a total picture of what your car is doing and we provide the custom mappings specifically for your MINI.
4. Do I need a wide-band in order for RM to work for my MINI?
Answer: Yes. The FA Tuning kit supports direct-logging from the Innovate LC1 and MTX-L AFR kit. In order for RM to be performed on your MINI, you MUST have one of these wide-band kits.
5. What should my HP be with the mods that I have?
Answer: "People tend to forget or just don't realize that tuning isn't about "Cranking It Up To The Max", it's more about balance & efficiency, hp will come with efficency, the less strain a motor has to endure to achieve it's goal (efficency) the easier it will reach that goal." - BlwnAway's quote from NAM.
With all of our tuning, it's not about getting the most HP. It's all about maximizing the optimal Air-to-Fuel Mixture to enable the engine to run at it's optimal. Along with raising the torque limiters and ecu parameters, the HP naturally increases.
So if you come across a tuner who says "I can give you 250whp" with your mods... you should turn around and run as fast as you can. A good engine calibrator (good tuner) will only make as much HP as the engine allows it - that's the key. The hardware components dictates maximum output - not your tuner.
6. Do I need to use a Dyno for a RM session?
Answer: This is entirely up to you. We only suggest the use of dyno as a measuring tool and as a road safety factor. If you live in a place where you can not safely perform the WOT logs, then please utilize a dyno facility.
But road logging is actually preferred b/c it is real life. The use of certain type of dyno is actually not that good b/c it doesn't provide the proper load - thus it doesn't simulate real-life conditions. So use your best discretion
***WARNING: Do NOT perform data logging in unsafe driving conditions! Driving above the speed limits will result in traffic citations and/or jail time - in extreme cases***.
Last edited by Bytetronik; 10-05-2012 at 03:00 AM.
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***New Feature Added for FA53 and FA-LITE (non-CARB version) Customer***
Symptoms: For FA customers who wants extra-sensitive throttle responses (and instant torque the moment the gas pedal is depressed) but couldn't do so b/c it was triggering LIMP Mode, we have found a solution for this. In typical Limp Mode fashing, the ECU would kick into safe mode (generating a DTC) and prevent the car from reving pass 2500 RPM.
Solution #1 - "Soft By-pass": the CEL Light would come on but LIMP Mode is disabled... and the CEL will disappear after you cycle the key (no DTC is generated). In this mode, DTC is triggered but NOT logged - LIMP Mode is disabled.
Solution #2 - "Complete Disable" (Recommened for Track MINIs ONLY)
=> This would completely disable the CEL as and LIMP Mode (no DTC is generated).
Symptoms: For FA customers who wants extra-sensitive throttle responses (and instant torque the moment the gas pedal is depressed) but couldn't do so b/c it was triggering LIMP Mode, we have found a solution for this. In typical Limp Mode fashing, the ECU would kick into safe mode (generating a DTC) and prevent the car from reving pass 2500 RPM.
Solution #1 - "Soft By-pass": the CEL Light would come on but LIMP Mode is disabled... and the CEL will disappear after you cycle the key (no DTC is generated). In this mode, DTC is triggered but NOT logged - LIMP Mode is disabled.
Solution #2 - "Complete Disable" (Recommened for Track MINIs ONLY)
=> This would completely disable the CEL as and LIMP Mode (no DTC is generated).
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Sprintex and FA-Lite with Custom Remote Mapping service review:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...4-post192.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...4-post192.html
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Amendment to the RM (Remote Mapping) Procedure:
- All RM tunes will be LOCKED to prevent customer tampering with the tune during the process.
- All RM has a 10-Day Time Limit (unless delays are at our end; in which case, we can extend the time line). So from the time we start Tune1, we have 10 days (calendar days) to get it completed.
- Logs from Customers must included AFR Readings.
- Turn-around time for tune file back to customer is within "24 hours" of receiving the proper logs.
- Once RM is completed, customer will get a "DEMO Version" of their tune so they can look at some of the changes being made, and customers can experiment on their own stock tune and learn from it.
- If your car has mechanical issues and we have to spend time to help you trouble-shoot, then there's an add'l $100 Charge on top of the RM Service fee.
- Customers making adjustments on top of the tuned files during the RM Process, making things even more difficult. Thus the reason for locking the roms.
- Some of these RM Sessions are spilling over a month, and this takes things out of our groove and making hard to keep things on track, especially when we have 15 to 20 RM's going at one time.
- With some vehicles, we spent more time trying to help you locate your mechanical issues than actually doing the Remote Mapping... so bottom line, make sure your MINI is in perfect working condition BEFORE we start the RM Session.
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Stock ECU and Launch Control.
Launch Control is a feature that used to be available only on Stand-Alone ECUs (ViPec, MoTec, 1320ECU, AEM, etc)... But Bytetronik is bring this feature onto your stock ECU.
After months of testing, we have perfected on the R50/52/53. Current FA customers can get this feature enabled on their tune. Contact us for details.
Link and video below:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...stock-ecu.html
After months of testing, we have perfected on the R50/52/53. Current FA customers can get this feature enabled on their tune. Contact us for details.
Link and video below:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...stock-ecu.html
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