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Old 03-12-2009 | 06:37 PM
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Break-in period

Are there any specific guidelines for the "break in" period?

For example, if I buy out of the state, any problem with using the cruise control while driving home for several hours or is it better to fluctuate the speed? Recall reading not to exceed 4,500 RPM.
 
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Old 03-12-2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lawnboy
Are there any specific guidelines for the "break in" period?

For example, if I buy out of the state, any problem with using the cruise control while driving home for several hours or is it better to fluctuate the speed? Recall reading not to exceed 4,500 RPM.

This is right from the owner's manual:
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Break-in period

Moving parts need breaking-in time to adjust to
each other. Please follow the instructions below
in order to achieve the optimal service life and
economy of operation for your vehicle.

Up to 1,200 miles/2,000 km

Drive at varying engine and road speeds, but do
not exceed the following:

> 4,500/min or 100 mph/160 km/h

Avoid full-throttle operation and use of the
transmission's kick-down mode.

After driving 1,200 miles/2,000 km
Engine and vehicle speeds can be gradually
increased.
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I didn't see any mention of the cruise control. But conventional wisdom (ie., mine) is to NOT use it during the "break-in" period. Constant engine speed (rpm) is your enemy during break-in. You want to vary the engine's operating range as much as possible while not exceeding the 4500 rpm limit. Cruising down the interstate at a constant rpm (eg. using cruise) is exactly what you don't want to do with your brand new engine.

Try the cruise control too be sure it works OK, nothing wrong with using it for short periods of time. Just take a 2-lane highway back home, vary your speed and cruising gear often, and get to know your new MINI - its' first road trip!

Oh, and try not to exceed 100mph on your first drive, will you?
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 01:36 AM
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I just got mine and hit 4500 rpms on the first day... oops! Haven't done it again.. cruised at 80 mph on the highway for about 15min... Hope I'm not pushing my mini! I want to make sure it has a smooth break in period!
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 09:24 AM
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i pushed my mini and it runs like a charm
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 10:06 AM
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https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...n-process.html

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...in-period.html

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ew-engine.html


Originally Posted by MINIspud


<snip>

I wrote "Break-In Secrets" after successfully applying this method
to approximately 300 new engines, all without any problems whatsoever.

Links to this article now appear on hundreds of motorsports discussion forums from all over the world. The reason is that over time, large numbers of people have done a direct comparison between my method and the owner's manual method, and the news of their success is spreading rapidly.

The results are always the same... a dramatic increase in power at all RPMs. In addition, many professional mechanics have disassembled engines that have used this method, to find that the condition of the engine is much better than when the owner's manual break-in method has been used.

The thing that makes this page so controversial is that there have been many other break-in articles
written in the past which will contradict what has been written here.

Several factors make the older information on break-in obsolete.

The biggest factor is that engine manufacturers now use a much finer honing pattern in the cylinders than they once did. This in turn changes the break-in requirements, because as you're about to learn, the window of opportunity for achieving an exceptional ring seal is much smaller with
newer engines than it was with the older "rough honed" engines.

In addition, there is a lot less heat build up in the cylinders from ring friction
due to the finer honing pattern used in modern engines.

The other factors that have changed are the vastly improved metal casting and machining
technologies which are now used. This means that the "wearing in" of the new parts
involves significantly less friction and actual wear than it did in the distant past.

With that in mind ...
What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??
The Short Answer: Run it Hard !


Why ??
Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
Of course it can't.

How Do Rings Seal Against Tremendous Combustion Pressure ??

From the actual gas pressure itself !! It passes over the top of the ring, and gets behind it to force it outward against the cylinder wall. The problem is that new rings are far from perfect and they must be worn in quite a bit in order to completely seal all the way around the bore. If the gas pressure is strong enough during the engine's first miles of operation (open that throttle !!!), then the entire ring will wear into
the cylinder surface, to seal the combustion pressure as well as possible.


The Problem With "Easy Break In" ...
The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.

There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!

If the rings aren't forced against the walls soon enough, they'll use up the roughness before they fully seat. Once that happens there is no solution but to re hone the cylinders, install new rings and start over again.

Fortunately, most new sportbike owners can't resist the urge to "open it up" once or twice,
which is why more engines don't have this problem !!

An additional factor that you may not have realized, is that the person at the dealership who set up your bike probably blasted your brand new bike pretty hard on the "test run". So, without realizing it, that adrenaline crazed set - up mechanic actually did you a huge favor !!

Yeah - But ...
the owner's manual says to break it in easy ...

Notice that this technique isn't "beating" on the engine, but rather taking a purposeful, methodical approach to sealing the rings. The logic to this method is sound. However, some will have a hard time with this approach, since it seems to "go against the grain".

The argument for an easy break-in is usually: "that's what the manual says" ....

Or more specifically: "there are tight parts in the engine and you might do damage or even seize it if you run it hard."

Consider this:
Due to the vastly improved metal casting and machining technologies which are now used, tight parts in new engines are not normal. A manufacturing mistake causing a tight clearance is an extremely rare occurrence these days. But, if there is something wrong with the engine clearances from the factory, no amount of gentle running will fix the problem.

The real reason ???
So why do all the owner's manuals say to take it easy for the first
thousand miles ???

This is a good question ...

Q: What is the most common cause of engine problems ???
A: Failure to:
Warm the engine up completely before running it hard !!!

Q: What is the second most common cause of engine problems ???
A: An easy break in !!!

Because, when the rings don't seal well, the blow-by gasses contaminate the oil with acids and other harmful combustion by-products !!

Ironically, an "easy break in" is not at all what it seems. By trying to "protect" the engine, the exact opposite happens, as leaky rings continue to contaminate your engine oil for the rest of the life of your engine !!
A Picture's Worth A Thousand Words:




The piston on the right was broken in as
per MotoMan's instructions.

After a full season of hard racing:

- Perfect Ring Seal ...
- No Scuffing ...
- Lots of Trophies !!!



These Honda F3 pistons show
the difference.

Although these pistons came out of engines which were raced for a full season, they weren't set-up with any special clearances or other preparation.

These engines were never worked on prior to being raced. They were totally stock as built by Honda.

The only difference was the break in method they used...



The one on the right was broken in as per MotoMan's instructions.

The one on the left was broken in exactly according to the owner's manual. The resulting leaky rings have allowed pressure to "blow by" down into the crankcase on acceleration, and oil to "suck-up" into the combustion chamber on deceleration.
Needless to say, this bike was slow !!

It's up to you:
The loss in power from an easy break-in and the resulting poor ring seal can be
anywhere from 2% - 10% !!

In other words:
The gain in power from using this break-in method can be anywhere from 2% - 10% !!
</snip>






I suggest you check that page out for more pix.
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 10:51 AM
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Drive it like you stole it, and it will be fine.
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 11:25 AM
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vary the rpms, change the oil asap after 1200, and y'll be good.
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 01:19 PM
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just grip and rip it whatever breaks is the weak point on the car.
 
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Old 03-31-2009 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pxtech
just grip and rip it whatever breaks is the weak point on the car.
LOL! Damn.. so i'm well pass 20 miles I guess its too late to run it hard!
 
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Old 04-02-2009 | 09:27 AM
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naw! rip it!
 
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Old 04-02-2009 | 11:02 AM
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Break-in period? What break-in period?
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 05:24 PM
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't pay much attention to it.
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 07:47 PM
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I haven't really been good about following the break in recommendations. But I believe that you have to not baby a new car just vary the RPMs and you should be fine.
 
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Old 04-18-2009 | 12:52 AM
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yea, I've been ripping lately.. after about 3 days of following the break in recommendations to a tee I couldnt take it anymore!
 
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Old 10-03-2009 | 08:24 PM
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I will admit two things: 1. I need to get my NAM signature, photo, etc finally put together! 2. Had my Mini @ 103mph within 10 minutes of delivery. Had 23 miles on it when I hit 100. Sorta by mistake, sorta the good music, sorta the fun car!

My 1998 Isuzu went 310,000 miles on its all-orig engine. Good compression test results at 300k miles. I broke it in the same way as the Mini. Towed a 1969 MGB 700 miles through mountains the day after I bought the Isuzu!

I say go for the hard break-in.
 
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Old 10-03-2009 | 11:08 PM
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Well while I would normally agree to following the manufacturers directions as to break in, unfortunately the Devil got in my brain on my first lengthy run, a 200 mile sprint up I-15 to Idaho, and with no apparent law enforcers around, found the MINI's desire to cruise at 85 to 90 mph eroding my natural caution and let it rip. A competitive Mustang driver and a inspired Acura pilot forced me to edge up over the century several times (but I did shut down below 120!)

However, I never exceded 5000 rpm and engaged the kickdown only once, and speed was varied from 35 to 85 due to traffic around the construction projects. The last 2 days I've been playing in the canyons and I don't think it's seen 80, so maybe I'm going to be good..........NAAAW - Grip It
And Rip It!

ENJOY
 
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Old 10-19-2009 | 08:25 AM
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I wonder how much of those first 20 miles are eaten up by factory testing and things of that sort???
 
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