Drivetrain Official ALTA™ Q&A thread PART TWO 2nd Generation MINI
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Oh christ! That was just my interpretation of the results. No mud slinging implied or intended. My point was simply there is a LOT of snake oil and people need to pay close attention to the dyno results shown. Good bad or otherwise. I wouldn't want ANYONE to pay any less attention to the results we post. We are EXTREMELY honest in our replies etc. Keep in mind that when I post, that I AM AN ENTHUSIAST AS WELL! Crap I own four of the darn things and can't wait for number five to show up! My money is equally hard earned as anyone on this board, I buy parts from other supporting vendors to compliment what my company offers. I don't want to waste my money and I certainly don't want anyone in the community to do the same.
Again this is MY two cents as Adam NOT as ALTA Performance. Lets get this thread back on track (and my sincerest apologies if anyone feels slighted here!)
Thank you again for all of your input!
Again this is MY two cents as Adam NOT as ALTA Performance. Lets get this thread back on track (and my sincerest apologies if anyone feels slighted here!)
Thank you again for all of your input!
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So then Adam, when you said, you just plug it in and do the flash and then remove it; does that mean you can change it back to stock so the dealership wont know, and is this something you'll be able to do in your driveway?? Also, with your different map options, what's the hp and torque gain range I could be seeing on my car with your exhaust and intake??? Thanks as usual:~)
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So then Adam, when you said, you just plug it in and do the flash and then remove it; does that mean you can change it back to stock so the dealership wont know, and is this something you'll be able to do in your driveway?? Also, with your different map options, what's the hp and torque gain range I could be seeing on my car with your exhaust and intake??? Thanks as usual:~)
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I can't really speak for Adam, but to me it sounds very similar to the set up I had on my WRX. I had the AccessPort by Cobb. It was a device that plugged into the OBDII port and just reflased the computer, and you could reflash on the fly similar to the Sport Button you already have. It only took about 15 min for the initial install, and the flashes where instant. The best part was the dealer was never able to tell that I had reflashed the computer.
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mega72: I agree! I need to dyno my R56 and see where I am at. I drove the GP yesterday to work, and the R56 home and WOW what a difference. The R56 would just drive right around the GP. I need to get concrete numbers on both to be sure where I am at in relation to the 250 mark.
scott48: Yeah if everything goes as planned it will be a do it yourself when you want to thing in your driveway, Target parking lot, Costco, etc. Ez!
xraydit and a96: That is the basic idea. Cross your fingers!
Thanks guys for putting things back on track!
scott48: Yeah if everything goes as planned it will be a do it yourself when you want to thing in your driveway, Target parking lot, Costco, etc. Ez!
xraydit and a96: That is the basic idea. Cross your fingers!
Thanks guys for putting things back on track!
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Stupid camera crapped out today! Have a replacement tomorrow. (Not an excuse and explanation!) So should have the promised sound clips ASAP. Scott48: You might check out the posts from ALTA2 HERE and HERE
Might have what you are looking for in terms of dyno results.
MrVroom: Don't we all want more boost?
Might have what you are looking for in terms of dyno results.
MrVroom: Don't we all want more boost?
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Stupid camera crapped out today! Have a replacement tomorrow. (Not an excuse and explanation!) So should have the promised sound clips ASAP. Scott48: You might check out the posts from ALTA2 HERE and HERE
Might have what you are looking for in terms of dyno results.
MrVroom: Don't we all want more boost?
Might have what you are looking for in terms of dyno results.
MrVroom: Don't we all want more boost?
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Fugitive AI: THANK YOU for the support. Let me know if I can help you in anyway.
Scott48: TBD
chili_red07: ALTA2 should have or will have posted some more exact numbers ASAP. The tubes are good for a noticable HP gain over stock, (exact #'s soon)due to the reduction in intake restriction (especially on the hot side of the intercooler as the muffler is removed and volume internally is increased.) Hope that helps! Let me know if I can help though!
Thanks folks! Love NAM members!
Scott48: TBD
chili_red07: ALTA2 should have or will have posted some more exact numbers ASAP. The tubes are good for a noticable HP gain over stock, (exact #'s soon)due to the reduction in intake restriction (especially on the hot side of the intercooler as the muffler is removed and volume internally is increased.) Hope that helps! Let me know if I can help though!
Thanks folks! Love NAM members!
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#47
Warranty is always a concern. But there is no real reason why either would have any affect on the warranty. A change to the ECU mapping, etc. would run far higher risk. Because of the MossMagnuson Act, they must prove the part caused the issue. Worst case the warranty is only voided on the part that was removed but that is replaced by the ALTA warranty.
Hope that helps!
Hope that helps!
#48
I also find it VERY hard to believe you can add 17hp with silicone hoses and an intake.
I would think a more realistic number would be 5-8hp. (combined) I'd like to be proven wrong though!
Dont get me wrong....these are great upgrades, but dont be jaded by the numbers game. For me, when selecting something like an intake I'm most concerned with finding something that is designed well and well built. If thought & research has been put into the design it'll show.
The difference between hp claims from manuf. to manuf. is so minimal it just doesnt feel that important to me.
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#49
Emissions Legal?
I also need to know if my car will pass an emissions test here in Texas with the cat back and downpipe installed. That would be a significant marketing point, but I did not find any verbiage on your site emphasizing such.
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sorry man....but it doesnt work like that. in real world engine tuning, you can't add up claimed HP numbers to get final # for your car.
I also find it VERY hard to believe you can add 17hp with silicone hoses and an intake.
I would think a more realistic number would be 5-8hp. (combined) I'd like to be proven wrong though!
Dont get me wrong....these are great upgrades, but dont be jaded by the numbers game. For me, when selecting something like an intake I'm most concerned with finding something that is designed well and well built. If thought & research has been put into the design it'll show.
The difference between hp claims from manuf. to manuf. is so minimal it just doesnt feel that important to me.
I also find it VERY hard to believe you can add 17hp with silicone hoses and an intake.
I would think a more realistic number would be 5-8hp. (combined) I'd like to be proven wrong though!
Dont get me wrong....these are great upgrades, but dont be jaded by the numbers game. For me, when selecting something like an intake I'm most concerned with finding something that is designed well and well built. If thought & research has been put into the design it'll show.
The difference between hp claims from manuf. to manuf. is so minimal it just doesnt feel that important to me.
5-8hp combined? Would you even feel a difference? I'd like to see real-world dyno results from anyone who has these parts on an otherwise stock MCS. Does that mean to get Alta's HP claims you need everything else in conjunction with them to reach their full potential? Does anyone have experience with this?
And why can't you add horsepower numbers together? (sorry if that's a dumb question)