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Drivetrain Official ALTA™ Q&A thread PART TWO 2nd Generation MINI

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Old 11-28-2007, 04:44 PM
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ghL17, I think the responses you get will vary with how and where the car is driven.

In my experience, I still hear the CAI over the turboback. Not quite as much as before, but certainly that cool sound is still there. Compounded coolness with the exhaust sound.

Again, in my experience. the exhaust makes a nice deep throaty sound at idle (like there's a real engine packed in there) and a somewhat spectacular series of sounds as you wind it up through the gears.

On level surfaces, holding a given speed (for ex. highway) I can barely hear the exhaust. BUT, I live in a hilly area and going up a long steady grade, or in my case a 2km steep hill, anything around 3K rpm does drone. Loudly. OK, this may be due in part because I have pulled the rear seats. But I have dynamat and 6 in of foam (photo gear) under a 5/8 in sheet of birch ply and a thick rubber mat (see my gallery) so I kind of doubt the seat-delete is making the difference.

Would I do it again. Absolutely. Does my wife like it...not so much. But she has her own car.

I'm kind of hoping the ECU will sort out the 3K performance dip and perhaps that will make a positive difference.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:33 PM
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On the 3K dip!

Check to see the road speed when that occurs. We have found that the DSC being on over 70mph, limits boost and tapers response.

Just an FYI!

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Thanks Adam, I hadn't heard about DSC and over 70mph (113km/h).

Certainly the rural road speed limit up my hill is 50km/h (30mph). And, because there are houses on both sides, a person should really race up, right? (Even if it is a good place to check on the effect of each added mod...)

Do you think the ECU allows a bit more choice in terms of gear/rpm?
 
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just saw the announcement/video for the upcoming turbo upgrade.....uh oh!!!!!....oh, and so the DSC actually hurts boost...that's really interesting, hmmm....I'll need to remember that!
 

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Yeah, what's with the teaser vid but nothing on the site???

 
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Yeah, what's with the teaser vid but nothing on the site???

They love the little teasers...gets us all hopped up and anxious
 
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uhg.. can't view youtube from work. it's blocked =(
 
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It looks like a different downpipe is need to bolt to the garrett turbo...if that's true, then what would I do with the downpipe I already have??
 
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On the DSC. Jeff has noted that in some situations over 70 mph with the DSC on not off, that it limits boost and therefore power. He noted that when he turned the DSC off that it allowed higher boost levels. (this was irregardless of the ALTA ECU.)

We were doing a ton of dyno stuff today and I FULLY anticipate some dyno plots and numbers to be up and on the site ASAP.

Teasers are kool!

Thanks again folks!
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ACooperS
ghL17, I think the responses you get will vary with how and where the car is driven.

In my experience, I still hear the CAI over the turboback. Not quite as much as before, but certainly that cool sound is still there. Compounded coolness with the exhaust sound.

Again, in my experience. the exhaust makes a nice deep throaty sound at idle (like there's a real engine packed in there) and a somewhat spectacular series of sounds as you wind it up through the gears.

On level surfaces, holding a given speed (for ex. highway) I can barely hear the exhaust. BUT, I live in a hilly area and going up a long steady grade, or in my case a 2km steep hill, anything around 3K rpm does drone. Loudly. OK, this may be due in part because I have pulled the rear seats. But I have dynamat and 6 in of foam (photo gear) under a 5/8 in sheet of birch ply and a thick rubber mat (see my gallery) so I kind of doubt the seat-delete is making the difference.

Would I do it again. Absolutely. Does my wife like it...not so much. But she has her own car.

I'm kind of hoping the ECU will sort out the 3K performance dip and perhaps that will make a positive difference.
Thanks for your input. Helped me alot. =)
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:41 AM
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Alta R56 Turbo Kit

The fitment looks really nice. Very curious to see what kind of power they will be getting from it.

I've been wondering how a twin charged R53 with a R56 turbo would do, so if anyone reading this does the Alta Turbo kit, let me know if you want to sell the stock unit...

...or...I could just get a R56 MCS and the Alta Turbo kit...man, did I just say that?
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:26 AM
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Here is the video for those who didn't get it to work.
 
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oh he!! yea!


(will this void my warranty? )
 
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
oh he!! yea!


(will this void my warranty? )
Oh He!! yeah... Or most of it.

How exactly does this setup work? One turbo feeds the other? Or they both combine to feed the intake?
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:19 AM
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This is a single turbo that replaces the OEM turbo. So larger, not double!

Thanks for asking!
 
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
This is a single turbo that replaces the OEM turbo. So larger, not double!

Thanks for asking!
what!!!...not twin turbo charged...come on
 
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
This is a single turbo that replaces the OEM turbo. So larger, not double!

Thanks for asking!
Will Bigger Turbo mean slower to spool up and some turbo lag? Any info on what RPM does the Turbo spool up and what is peak torque using this setup on a stock car?

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OK, I just saw the video, is the Turbo inlet hose (silicone) replaced by the metal one?
 
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
This is a single turbo that replaces the OEM turbo. So larger, not double!
Oh. That part to left of the turbo is what's under the heat shield now? What does that piece do? Is it okay to leave the heatshield off with the larger turbo? Is the pipe that comes out to the left part of the Alta downpipe setup or something else? Questions Questions Questions.

Hope I'm not showing my ignorance too much...
 
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Hey guys! MUCH more information coming. Remember this is just a teaser. Wait till the dyno stuff comes out!
 
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PRIVAT NETZ WHEELS

ALTA:

The weight you have listed of 17lbs/each, is that for the 17" or 18"

Also as for pricing it says $149.99 in the website, but doesn't give a choice to select 17" or 18", how much are the 18" and how much they weigh?

Thanks
 
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Sorry about that!

17" is 17 lbs.

18" is 18.5 lbs.

I need to add the 18" option to purchase (THANK YOU for pointing that out!) They are $159.99 each.

Call to order! In stock at last check.

Thanks again!
 
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Hey guys, FYI I final QC'd the R56 gauge pods today before leaving work.

Finishing the instructions and so forth early in the week and then shoudl be shippable with any luck by weeks end.

EGT
BOOST
OIL TEMP
OIL PRES
WATER TEMP
AFR

Are all available. Prices start at $299.99 for a complete two gauge set up. And an additional third can be mounted for $150 more.

E-mail me for more information.

Thanks again and have a great weekend!
 
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Originally Posted by ADAMSALTAMINI
Hey guys, FYI I final QC'd the R56 gauge pods today before leaving work.

Finishing the instructions and so forth early in the week and then shoudl be shippable with any luck by weeks end.

EGT
BOOST
OIL TEMP
OIL PRES
WATER TEMP
AFR

Are all available. Prices start at $299.99 for a complete two gauge set up. And an additional third can be mounted for $150 more.

E-mail me for more information.

Thanks again and have a great weekend!
thank god!! ....I've been going crazy over here waiting for this(not to mention the ecu)!!
 
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Originally Posted by ADAMSALTAMINI
Hey guys, FYI I final QC'd the R56 gauge pods today before leaving work.

Finishing the instructions and so forth early in the week and then shoudl be shippable with any luck by weeks end.

EGT
BOOST
OIL TEMP
OIL PRES
WATER TEMP
AFR

Are all available. Prices start at $299.99 for a complete two gauge set up. And an additional third can be mounted for $150 more.

E-mail me for more information.

Thanks again and have a great weekend!
So many different gauges, but i think I would only have space for 1 or 2 gauges, which one would you recommend as the most important and the second most important?

Thanks
 


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