Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R56) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain Official ALTA™ Q&A thread PART TWO 2nd Generation MINI

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Old 09-19-2007, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scott48
What amount of bolt on hp and torque do you guys think the R56 engine and all drivetrain components can take before needing to change internal engine components, tranny stuff, etc.?
I think we'll be okay for a while. The fuel system is going to be the first bottleneck IMO. Direct injection injectors are EXPENSIVE as well as the fuel pumps. Engine driven pump is $$$$$. We will see. I have a feeling from talking to Adam so much that they'll figure a way to get the car VERY strong.
My guess is around 275-300whp is realistic. I think the mini would be an absolute rocket ship with that!
 
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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This is a GOOD question and one we intend to find out without putting the pistons through the sides of the block! More than likely the engine in proper tune can handle 300 WHP. But we need to find out for sure. More information will come out as we approach that number.

Thanks again folks!
 
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:04 PM
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are those gauges you just posted about for R56???????????
 
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:17 PM
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Nope! The gauges are, the pod isn't. Still finishing the final details, but you have the basic idea The R56 are a bit different pods though.

Sorry!

Besides you have a FMIC to put on!!!!! Go home!
 
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:34 PM
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What kind of boost increase from the 13.6psi with overboost could we possibly expect from an ecu tune on the stock turbo?
 
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:56 AM
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scott48: It all depends. I can't really give you that information until I have more information to share that is accurate. But the OEM turbo has produced more than 2 bar at some points of the RPM band.

Stay Tuned!

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scott48: It all depends. I can't really give you that information until I have more information to share that is accurate. But the OEM turbo has produced more than 2 bar at some points of the RPM band.

Stay Tuned!

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Holy cow!!....that's like 28psi!!!!Talk about an increase in hp . My guess is that it wont be tuned to run that much boost for everyday driving, just to be safe and reliable.
 
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oooooo 2 bar. that would be nice. i just want more boost, i was neck and neck with a modded r53 last night. this cant go on!!!! help me out hehehe
 
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No kidding!

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oooooo 2 bar. that would be nice. i just want more boost, i was neck and neck with a modded r53 last night. this cant go on!!!! help me out hehehe
We ALL need more boost. Things are a coming folks. MY apologies for the delay. Again, what we are up to is NOT earth shaking, but will be an ALTA properly tuned setup for the car and allows for on the fly map changes.

Thanks again folks!

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Originally Posted by 07 MCS
oooooo 2 bar. that would be nice. i just want more boost, i was neck and neck with a modded r53 last night. this cant go on!!!! help me out hehehe

I am in the same boat. MarioKart smoked me a couple of weeks ago. We were dead even in first and second gear.....then it was a joke...He got me by many car lengths.

I NEED more power!
 
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
We ALL need more boost. Things are a coming folks. MY apologies for the delay. Again, what we are up to is NOT earth shaking, but will be an ALTA properly tuned setup for the car and allows for on the fly map changes.

Thanks again folks!

Adam@altaminiperformance.com
So then I should be able to get the highest hp map since I have all the other bolt on power mods right now.........and hopefully that equates to approx. 230hp or greater
 
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
We ALL need more boost.

 
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My hood scoop came with every other column of holes in the black mesh opened...is that enough for proper air flow for the Alta intake I have?
 
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Originally Posted by ALTAPerformance
allows for on the fly map changes
I realize most mods are to increase performance, will there be a mapping that is able to increase fuel economy for the commuters out here? Would be nice to be able to switch back and forth
 
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sc0TT48: That is certainly better than if the vent was completely blocked. Jeff claims there is some reduction in HP as a result. I have mine in the same condition as yours and will try to simulate in and out on the dyno and see if I can get an accurate number.

TWON: There could be. Historically most clients are not interested in mileage, regardless we try to build as much economy in the cruise sections of any map.

Thanks again!

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So when do you anticipate your ECU to be coming out? It would be good to see at least a 30 to 40 whp increase by using the ECU alone.
 
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Originally Posted by scott48
My hood scoop came with every other column of holes in the black mesh opened...is that enough for proper air flow for the Alta intake I have?

I just took mine out all together. There are a few posts of people worrying about water, but I seriously doubt that it would be an issue.
 
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where are those gauges at???
 
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Good Question!

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Originally Posted by ADAMSALTAMINI
Good Question!

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GEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ.....hurry up JEFF:impatient :impatient ........we all want gauges!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by scott48
My hood scoop came with every other column of holes in the black mesh opened...is that enough for proper air flow for the Alta intake I have?
I noticed that but it was on a picture you posted on the intercooler thread but I didn't want to go off topic. The more air the merrier, even if you don't notice it in HP gain. I never had any trouble with my Impreza STi from water or debris brought in through the GIANT hood scoop, just a few bugs to pick off of the intercooler from time to time. I read somewhere else on NAM someone dremeled out the closed sections of the grill to keep the black grille look. I'm just going to wrestle it off when my CAI arrives though. There's no room for spare parts under that hood!
 
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Alta:

I was checking the numbers on your FMIC, are the figures with just the FMIC installed vs. stock R56? 20whp and 30 ft. lbs torque is very impressive.

Will it be pointless to install the CAI then, if I want to install the FMIC?

Thanks

PS: also, forgot to ask if I need any special tools to install the FMIC? I have some basic tools but no soldering or blow torch.
 
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Originally Posted by mikeg4572
I just took mine out all together. There are a few posts of people worrying about water, but I seriously doubt that it would be an issue.
Me too, I don't think it will be a problem.
 
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byhsu: The intake is still vitally important to making more HP. Intercoolers and Intakes do different things. There are no special tools required other than a couple torx bits, screwdriver, utility knife, etc. No big deal! Thanks for asking!

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Torgue loss ? .. from what ? I'd love to learn some things so someone post on here and learn me a thing or two
The only related concept I've heard so far is perhaps a more "free flow" exhaust might raise horse power with less back pressure, losing torque.. how though?

ps- I'm a 19 yr old Cedarville student lookin to learn some more engineering so help me out you gearheads!
 


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