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Ummm...most likely not. Do a few searches on these boards, but the few people running the 19% reduction and the 2% crank (approaching or beyond 22%; I am unsure) have sky high inlet temperatures, leading to timing reductions and less power. After awhile, any excess boost readings are due to pressure from heat and not extra air.
Additionally, you are most definitely exceeding the duty cycle and specifications of the supercharger. There is also the fact that you will need new injectors for that setup.
You "shouldn't" have any problems, not immediately at least. I would be incredibly skeptical.
- Matt
Edit: Come to think of it, I would not trust anyone to do a tune on my car if they also advise a 22% pulley.
Last edited by verveAbsolut; 11-11-2007 at 11:41 AM.
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Don't do it!!! It may be cheap and quick, but your temps are going to sky rocket. I know running that much boost may be "sweet" but not in that form. If you want to run that much boost and actually make some power with it go twin charge or full turbo. I know that is a whole other ball game, but that is what it takes to successfully run that much boost with out loosing power.
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Any reduction above 15-16% should (I would say needs) injectors. Duty cycle on stock Cooper S injectors is around 80% if I remember. Going to a 15% reduction uses up most of the remainder (20%). Going to anything beyond that results in not enough fuel in the cylinders to be burned, and a lean condition occurs (serious risk of engine internal damage occurs).
- Matt
Last edited by verveAbsolut; 11-12-2007 at 12:45 PM. Reason: Clarified unit on temperature.
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In my opinion (and only in my opinion), I think you should stay the way things are, unless you plan on investing the time, money, and effort to do it once, and do it right (in this case if you wanted to do it, it would definitely require a new intercooler & injectors, possibly more).
At the end of the day though, it is totally your decision to make. I am but one person; I try to act as rationally and based on facts as I can, but all decisions come down to one person, and that person's evaluation of risk/reward and costing.
For me, it would not be right. I would advise others the same. But others can, may, and will disagree.
- Matt
At the end of the day though, it is totally your decision to make. I am but one person; I try to act as rationally and based on facts as I can, but all decisions come down to one person, and that person's evaluation of risk/reward and costing.
For me, it would not be right. I would advise others the same. But others can, may, and will disagree.
- Matt
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raul, I think that everyone is providing ample results. That being said, if you really want to get into this stuff(the engineering behind all of it, controlling IATs making your car more efficient, etc...) give someone like Jan ( www.revolutionmini.com ) a call. Sorry if I have been bias toward Jan, he has been a huge inspiration and has provided my self with tremendous advise. There are plenty others, just research them through the vendor directory.
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I wanted to keep my car as OEM as possible. This guy told me that this mod was verry simple and I can turn my car as stock when ever I want (if I keep the OEM pulley), but it seems that it is kind of a mayor mod, well because it means changing the intercooler and the injectors.
I think I wont do it, thank you all for your advice.
I think I wont do it, thank you all for your advice.
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"go back to stock" whenever you want IF everything else stays together. Belt wear, for example, with a 19% increases significantly. With a 22 it would be even worse. And, as several others have already said, it is way overboard on the supercharger spec. If you were to get a 19 with a 3% crank pulley, you would have to do a lot just to keep temps down. I think water/methanol injection or some super duper IC, or some other relatively extreme means of cooling the charge would be a must with that setup. And then you are talking some serious coin.
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I wanted to keep my car as OEM as possible. This guy told me that this mod was verry simple and I can turn my car as stock when ever I want (if I keep the OEM pulley), but it seems that it is kind of a mayor mod, well because it means changing the intercooler and the injectors.
I think I wont do it, thank you all for your advice.
I think I wont do it, thank you all for your advice.
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