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Old 05-13-2008 | 05:28 PM
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The thing is, people buy it just for the sound it makes. If that is what they want, then it's worth it.
I wasn't addressing those people, I was commenting on the lack of any dyno results despite the fact that some were promised to the rest of the people in here that care about performance.
 
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I wasn't addressing those people, I was commenting on the lack of any dyno results despite the fact that some were promised to the rest of the people in here that care about performance.
You must have had a bad childhood .
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 05:37 PM
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You must have had a bad childhood .
By many accounts I'm still a child. I like to think my life is pretty good though.
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
I wasn't addressing those people, I was commenting on the lack of any dyno results despite the fact that some were promised to the rest of the people in here that care about performance.
And I think it has been hashed out many times already that all intakes are not much different in numbers than any other, for the R53.
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 05:46 PM
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And I think it has been hashed out many times already that all intakes are not much different in numbers than any other, for the R53.
I'm aware of that, that doesn't mean people don't want to see dyno results.

Hence my comment, that they're probably not going to see any.

Sounds like M7 promised some or they wouldn't all be sitting around waiting for some info.
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 06:52 PM
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what i want to know is when am i going to get the one i ordered!!!!!!
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 07:06 PM
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[quote=rustyboy155;2229096]The AGS-"R" is for the R56.

The AGS (I think they went through 3 versions) is for the R53, and was the first intake M7 sold, before they hijacked Randy Webb's design on the DDM HDI box. M7 stopped selling the DDM/HDI box (At least the original one that looked exactly like Randy's) after their M62 project blew up.

Rusty you are really a piece of work sometimes . We took on the HDI box only after DDM severed ties with Randy because he was not paying his bills . DDM had a bunch of product backing up and no outlet for them . He first asked us to take them on while he was still dealing with Webb and we refused saying that once he was done with him we would help him move them. We were making approx $ 10 a piece on them so there is no way we would have bothered with " highjacking " a design. We now have our own system and no longer sell the DDM box. Do your self a favor and get all the facts before typing what you think you know in a public forum. We see each other around too much not to.

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Old 05-13-2008 | 07:14 PM
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I made my comment out of frustration, but in no way wanted to question the credibility of M7 Tuning. Everyone knows they are a great company, but the last few posts by M7 stated that they had indeed dynoed the intake, and had results....

I know that all intakes get the same performance gains, but I believe that particular theory doesnt pertain to this intake. It is a completely different design that the rest of the field, so I am curious as to the power gain, and most important, the power/torque curve.

Can anyone from the M7 camp reply directly to my question??
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 08:52 PM
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I never stated we had a dyno sheet of the final version...period

The Super-AGS is a very complex product indeed, and it has taken longer than we expected to get it to the market place, and for that I do appologize.

We are starting to deliver the product this week, but the list of pre ordered
units is very long so some of you might have to wait just a little bit longer.

And yes we will have some dyno sheet shortly.

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gah... woops wrong button LOL.... carry on...

oh and Rustboy... the "webb" box was never the webb box.. it was always DDMs.... people can call it what they will... change it how ever they want... it's still the DDM box... just copied....
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 09:18 PM
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gah... woops wrong button LOL.... carry on...

oh and Rustboy... the "webb" box was never the webb box.. it was always DDMs.... people can call it what they will... change it how ever they want... it's still the DDM box... just copied....
Good to know...
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
The AGS-"R" is for the R56.

The AGS (I think they went through 3 versions) is for the R53, and was the first intake M7 sold, before they hijacked Randy Webb's design on the DDM HDI box. M7 stopped selling the DDM/HDI box (At least the original one that looked exactly like Randy's) after their M62 project blew up.
Rusty you are really a piece of work sometimes . We took on the HDI box only after DDM severed ties with Randy because he was not paying his bills . DDM had a bunch of product backing up and no outlet for them . He first asked us to take them on while he was still dealing with Webb and we refused saying that once he was done with him we would help him move them. We were making approx $ 10 a piece on them so there is no way we would have bothered with " highjacking " a design. We now have our own system and no longer sell the DDM box. Do your self a favor and get all the facts before typing what you think you know in a public forum. We see each other around too much not to.

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Then it's good you set the record straight.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:16 AM
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Then it's good you set the record straight.
Yes it is, but to late for the slander to get out. The Bible says it this way: James 3:5 Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.
 
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
Yes it is, but to late for the slander to get out. The Bible says it this way: James 3:5 Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.
bible ref's FTL
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
Then it's good you set the record straight.
Hmm, I guess you are not the only one that needs to get their facts straight. There is always the other side of the story. Such as not receiving the products the payment was demanded for.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:00 AM
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bible ref's FTL
Don't understand that 1?
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:05 AM
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Don't understand that 1?
It means there is enough monkey poop being thrown around without adding a religious aspect to it.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:31 AM
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It means there is enough monkey poop being thrown around without adding a religious aspect to it.
But it made sense didn't it .
 
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But it made sense didn't it .
sorry, I don't speak Middle English
 
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
But it made sense didn't it .
The problem with quotes from The Bible is that it makes different sense to different people. I say we should have plenty to disagree about just by discussing how [The Super-AGS is a] very complex an air filter can get.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:50 AM
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sorry, I don't speak Middle English
Originally Posted by goaljnky
The problem with quotes from The Bible is that it makes different sense to different people. I say we should have plenty to disagree about just by discussing how [The Super-AGS is a] very complex an air filter can get.
How about this one: Loose lips, sink ships . P.S. sorry M7 for all this .
 

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Old 05-14-2008 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
Yes it is, but to late for the slander to get out. The Bible says it this way: James 3:5 Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.
Wow...
Politics are a controversial topic but Religion is ok? This forum gets more and more confusing every day.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 09:21 AM
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Wow...
Politics are a controversial topic but Religion is ok? This forum gets more and more confusing every day.
Wasn't a topic, just a quote.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 09:21 AM
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The problem with quotes from The Bible is that it makes different sense to different people. I say we should have plenty to disagree about just by discussing how [The Super-AGS is a] very complex an air filter can get.
I'd tend to agree, we have enough to debate (How complex air filters are) without throwing scientifically irrelevant (and unprovable), all powerful deities into the mix...
 
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
How about this one: Loose lips, sink ships . P.S. sorry M7 for all this .
I like that one. I always thought that applied to keeping secrets. Are you saying there are secrets to be kept here? I mean, except for the dyno results, of course.
 


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