Drivetrain The Official ALTA AccessPORT Thread
#3051
#3052
Wow. Haven't been here in a while so just caught this news. Sad indeed. Still, here is the question/s: Whenever I run a tune, and I have a few that Jeff has provided, within a couple weeks, I always end up with CELs P2D52 P2DCC P2DCB. I gather these have to do with "superknock" and the corresponding cylinder. When I run the stage 0 map I don't get it. So I was wondering 2 things; 1. Given that the superknock seems intermittent, how bad is it to run a tune with it? and 2. Is it possible to program the Sport button to run a stage 0 equivalent when not engaged and an aggressive tune only when it is engaged? Thanks for any help and insight.
#3053
I'm an Auto.
#3054
Could you explain your first 2 sentences in detail? What do mean the car is undrivable in traffic?
#3055
I want to confirm my worst case scenario Chris...
If I take my coupe in this August 2013 and Mini does service that flashes a new version of software on the ECU (released 8/13), I will be SOL on the AP since this will be a new rom version released after support for the AP was dropped, yes?
If that is the case, then we really have no way to predict how long the AP will be usable correct?
If I take my coupe in this August 2013 and Mini does service that flashes a new version of software on the ECU (released 8/13), I will be SOL on the AP since this will be a new rom version released after support for the AP was dropped, yes?
If that is the case, then we really have no way to predict how long the AP will be usable correct?
That code means there is some type of leak somewhere. Most likely it's from a leaking diverter valve, or hose connection after the turbo.
It would be nice if Alta would core dump every map they've written for the AP and host them on their site prior to them terminating help with the AP. that way folks could pick and choose what they might need if that need arises. That or mail downloads to custers who request it.
This ROM issue really is the biggest problem that I see. It was stated that Alta has seen minimal ROM updates ie. 2 in six months. For those with 2+ years left on their warranties that's actually pretty good odds that at some point your ECU will be updated at the dealer rendering your now unsupported AP useless.
This ROM issue really is the biggest problem that I see. It was stated that Alta has seen minimal ROM updates ie. 2 in six months. For those with 2+ years left on their warranties that's actually pretty good odds that at some point your ECU will be updated at the dealer rendering your now unsupported AP useless.
Again, it would be a good idea to tell the dealer to not update the ECU to make sure the AP still will work after July 2013.
Wow. Haven't been here in a while so just caught this news. Sad indeed. Still, here is the question/s: Whenever I run a tune, and I have a few that Jeff has provided, within a couple weeks, I always end up with CELs P2D52 P2DCC P2DCB. I gather these have to do with "superknock" and the corresponding cylinder. When I run the stage 0 map I don't get it. So I was wondering 2 things; 1. Given that the superknock seems intermittent, how bad is it to run a tune with it? and 2. Is it possible to program the Sport button to run a stage 0 equivalent when not engaged and an aggressive tune only when it is engaged? Thanks for any help and insight.
If you are getting knock only with our tune, most likely it's coming from spark plug gap, or carbon build up on the intake valves. It really should get fixed to make sure the car is running safely. The reason this can happen with an aftermarket tune is because the ECU is programmed to run more aggressive.
#3056
Thanks Chris. I don't know how to approach the dealer (it's still under warranty) about repair without revealing my special tuning :( Got any suggestions on that? Also, what about question 2, programming the sport button? I recall that being discussed here some time ago, but not the outcome.
#3057
Strange. I haven't heard other folks mention that as an issue. It may be something else that's causing that. I've had to maps sent by Jeff to fix an idle bounce issue. One for stage 1 92 oct and one for stage 1 FMIC 92 oct. Those updated maps have the idle sitting just right. This being the case I'm pretty sure ill need updated maps for every pre loaded map that came on my AP.
#3058
Another question for Alta/Chris...
Is the ending of AP support a legal/technical issue? If it is just business/money, I have no issue paying $100+ to update the ROM later in it's life. I understand providing free support for a discontinued product doesn't make business sense.
This is what I plan on doing for now in hopes of maintaining my Stage 1 efforts, but this isn't a good enough solution for me to proceed with putting more after market parts (i.e more money) in the car and going to a higher stage.
Is the ending of AP support a legal/technical issue? If it is just business/money, I have no issue paying $100+ to update the ROM later in it's life. I understand providing free support for a discontinued product doesn't make business sense.
This is what I plan on doing for now in hopes of maintaining my Stage 1 efforts, but this isn't a good enough solution for me to proceed with putting more after market parts (i.e more money) in the car and going to a higher stage.
-Steven
#3059
Thanks Chris. I don't know how to approach the dealer (it's still under warranty) about repair without revealing my special tuning :( Got any suggestions on that? Also, what about question 2, programming the sport button? I recall that being discussed here some time ago, but not the outcome.
#3060
If the dealer asks why, you can tell them you don't want to change it because you're happy with the tune right now, and don't want anything to change.
COBB along with ALTA is unfortunately not going to keep supporting the AccessPORT past July 2013. Sorry! There's nothing that is going to change about this. But customer tuners, like OX Tuning will continue to make custom maps for the MINI AP. You can find a list of custom tuners for the MINI AP here: http://www.cobbtuning.com/Domestic-P...70754.htm#Mini
COBB along with ALTA is unfortunately not going to keep supporting the AccessPORT past July 2013. Sorry! There's nothing that is going to change about this. But customer tuners, like OX Tuning will continue to make custom maps for the MINI AP. You can find a list of custom tuners for the MINI AP here: http://www.cobbtuning.com/Domestic-P...70754.htm#Mini
-Steven
#3061
But customer tuners, like OX Tuning will continue to make custom maps for the MINI AP. You can find a list of custom tuners for the MINI AP here: http://www.cobbtuning.com/Domestic-P...70754.htm#Mini
#3062
Other shops probably won't be tweaking our maps, but they could supply their own custom map, and tweak that if necessary. Their maps wouldn't be free though.
OX speed will not be able to add new ECUs, after July 2013, there will be no way to add new ECUs for the AP.
#3064
Maybe it's just because of the aggressive tune, but I'd like to see a fix for the bouncy idle, but without raising the idle RPM.
Any chance we could get some info on the fix from Alta?
#3065
As for asking dealers not to update ECU's on warrantied cars. I wonder if turning down an ECU update would in itself void a warranty? I have a great relationship with my dealer and plan on asking a few questions relating to all of this.
Minus the AP I'm already walking the razor's edge of having my warranty shredded at the whim of MINI. If they knew I was sporting a tune (and if something catastrophic were to happen I'm sure they'd find out) that'd be just about all they'd need to yank it. My main and only real concern is to make sure I have all the working maps I need for the mods I have planned and to not have any ECU updates done to my car after the July cutoff.
#3066
Idling at 1K means that as soon as I let off of the brake, I move about 15 mph idling! I'm thinking that everyone that has had the bouncy idle issue has been using a Stage 1 tune, not a Stage 3. It makes sense that a more aggressive tune idling at higher RPM will be much less drivable.
Maybe it's just because of the aggressive tune, but I'd like to see a fix for the bouncy idle, but without raising the idle RPM.
Any chance we could get some info on the fix from Alta?
Maybe it's just because of the aggressive tune, but I'd like to see a fix for the bouncy idle, but without raising the idle RPM.
Any chance we could get some info on the fix from Alta?
The AccessPORT for the MINI requires different software, refer to the link I posted yesterday on shops that can make tunes for the MINI.
#3067
I've seen a lot of going back and forth about this idle bounce and I'm a bit confused, maybe someone can clear it up. My 92 octane stage one map has done it a couple of times (only had it for a week). Is this bad for the car? Does it need to be addressed? I remember my car would do this sort of thing before I got the AP. It all still seems random. Any thoughts?
#3069
#3070
#3073
Great idea! While all maps are supposed to be pre loaded on the AP's for specific vehicles (S, JCW, etc) sometimes those preloaded maps have issues. In my case, and others, its idle bounce. The preloaded maps won't fix that and I've needed updated maps from Jeff. It'd be nice to have a database of all the various maps available somewhere since there will come a time emailing Chris or Jeff won't be possible.
Edit: when I say preloaded for specific cars I don't mean individual cars but model/ECU type. I don't think maps are locked to specific vehicles.
Edit: when I say preloaded for specific cars I don't mean individual cars but model/ECU type. I don't think maps are locked to specific vehicles.
#3074
Maps are not made for specific APs, but they are made for specific ECU versions and transmissions. So for example, even if two 2009 MCS manuals have the AP, that doesn't mean they have the same ECU update. But exchanging custom maps won't be recommended, since they are made for specific cars only.
#3075