Drivetrain The Official ALTA AccessPORT Thread
#301
There was power all over. I went through 2 sets of tires w that tune and I'm retired w only 29k on the car. Problem was it damaged the car running it too lean. Not worth $1k
#302
My Dyno chart
Guys. I'm sorry for the missed numbers in my previous post. I said 300 when I should have said 200. Forgive an old retired guy in bifocals. I attached in PDF my charts from DynoComp plus the invoice. Yep my name is really Chris, not Monkeyjunk. I think for $799 that AP is a steal. I know I got mine.
#303
Guys. I'm sorry for the missed numbers in my previous post. I said 300 when I should have said 200. Forgive an old retired guy in bifocals. I attached in PDF my charts from DynoComp plus the invoice. Yep my name is really Chris, not Monkeyjunk. I think for $799 that AP is a steal. I know I got mine.
Your dyno seems more on par for their tunes. I'm amazed that they managed to run it at 22-25psi and only make those numbers. And anytime I go in they try to tell me that I need to buy the Evotech tune.... (I've known Rich for a long time, ever since he opened basically) nooooo way.
#304
#305
Hey all,
Tonight my wife drove my '09 JCW for the first time since I uploaded the Alta Stage 1 tune with the AP. She has a 2010 Clubman S (with the Alta CAI), and she's spent plenty time with my car as well, so she knows what each of them feels like in their "lightly modified" state.
I gotta tell you, it was so much fun watching her expressions when she first felt the power come on from a stop. The smile as she went from 2nd to 3rd, priceless! She had us up near triple digits before she realized it, and this was with the AC on and me (cough..unsprung weight..cough...) in the passenger seat . She could not say enough about how much more power it has. And sitting in the passenger seat I could appreciate the effort it took to keep my head off the headrest during acceleration.
Our anniversary is in October, think I know what she'll ask for.....
Tonight my wife drove my '09 JCW for the first time since I uploaded the Alta Stage 1 tune with the AP. She has a 2010 Clubman S (with the Alta CAI), and she's spent plenty time with my car as well, so she knows what each of them feels like in their "lightly modified" state.
I gotta tell you, it was so much fun watching her expressions when she first felt the power come on from a stop. The smile as she went from 2nd to 3rd, priceless! She had us up near triple digits before she realized it, and this was with the AC on and me (cough..unsprung weight..cough...) in the passenger seat . She could not say enough about how much more power it has. And sitting in the passenger seat I could appreciate the effort it took to keep my head off the headrest during acceleration.
Our anniversary is in October, think I know what she'll ask for.....
#307
WOW this thread is on cruise control!
I am tyring to keep up with maps and calls and everyone saying such good things! I love everyones response and i am so glad everyone is happy! I think the only unhappy people are the Auto and 91 octane guys! We are working on this right now so dont worry!
Well whatever the drivetrain is rated for, i wouldn't be too concerned because its FWD. That is a great thing with FWD cars, you get a point and additional power tends to spin tires. Not sure exactly which transmission it is
Getrag Trannys
but i wouldn't be too worried until we start to hit the 350ft-lbs of torque a turbo kit could make.
As SimpsonGI said, long long time! The AccessPORT has been used for many other cars over the years and the ALTA AccessPORT is the first Euro version that was made. Its an exciting time for everyone in the MINI world as the AccessPORT is just the start. There has never been a wide spread tuning tool like this EVER for the Mini or any other Euro car. This is first of its kind!
Next up is the tuning software! Once this gets into tuners hands, the MINI tuning world is going to go crazy!
What i see is that in 2wd mode dynos are pretty close, add the AWD and then its all over the place. I am only mentioning this as there is an AWD car coming soon, and i bet these over rated HP cars are going to start to finally read something more reasonable.
Its hard to tell customers that they just wasted their money on a JCW kit for their Cooper S. But until now there wasn't a better option. So don't feel like you wasted your money at all as at the time there was no other option.
Or shoes! Don't spill it!
All our ALTA AccessPORT tunes tune the common downpipe codes so they will not come on. So this means you can finally run our downpipe and not have issues when it comes time for emissions.
We have a few testers and it seems like the mapping side of things is very close. The only issue is clearing the Tranny codes. This will happen very soon.
I can't wait to get one also! Its either going to happen really quick or its going to take a couple 3 months. Hopefully BMW isn't noticing the AccessPORT and goes and changes a bunch of things!
I am tyring to keep up with maps and calls and everyone saying such good things! I love everyones response and i am so glad everyone is happy! I think the only unhappy people are the Auto and 91 octane guys! We are working on this right now so dont worry!
Getrag Trannys
but i wouldn't be too worried until we start to hit the 350ft-lbs of torque a turbo kit could make.
Next up is the tuning software! Once this gets into tuners hands, the MINI tuning world is going to go crazy!
I've hear of the mustangs being called heart breakers. However, I have personally witnessed JCW on a dynajet - hp was 203 and tq was 208 - this was not my personal JCW. We've seen the numbers from the dynapacks being similar to the dynajets. Perhaps the JCW on the mustang wasn't up to par with the avg JCW we've seen dynoed. They do vary.
I dynoed my personal Alta AP tuned car yesterday on a dynapack - same as alta uses. It feels like it is putting out what the dyno says. I can break the tires loose in 3rd gear just by mashing the gas from a slow roll. These are those heavy a$$ jcw rims w/runflats.
Whichever dyno you want to believe, it is the huge difference in the before and after that count. They should also have the same difference on a mustang - just on a slightly lower scale.
I dynoed my personal Alta AP tuned car yesterday on a dynapack - same as alta uses. It feels like it is putting out what the dyno says. I can break the tires loose in 3rd gear just by mashing the gas from a slow roll. These are those heavy a$$ jcw rims w/runflats.
Whichever dyno you want to believe, it is the huge difference in the before and after that count. They should also have the same difference on a mustang - just on a slightly lower scale.
I've posed this question to them in an email. Think of this way. The JCW tune is, in it self an ECU flash. So the AP is taking the car back to stock and flashing it with the stage 1 flash. According to the email reply I got from Chris, this plus the FMIC I am goin to have installed, will take it up to Factory JCW performace levels. It kinda of sucks that we spent all that money on the kit and now the JCW kit is just 1900 dollars for some badges, cat back muffler and CAI. I'm going to go ahead and pull the trigger ond get the FMIC and AP. I just need to find a local shop that will install the FMIC. although i'm sure it is an easy job, I really donn't want to do it myself.
Or shoes! Don't spill it!
All our ALTA AccessPORT tunes tune the common downpipe codes so they will not come on. So this means you can finally run our downpipe and not have issues when it comes time for emissions.
We have a few testers and it seems like the mapping side of things is very close. The only issue is clearing the Tranny codes. This will happen very soon.
I can't wait to get one also! Its either going to happen really quick or its going to take a couple 3 months. Hopefully BMW isn't noticing the AccessPORT and goes and changes a bunch of things!
#309
Haha I was going to say....that was outrageous!
Your dyno seems more on par for their tunes. I'm amazed that they managed to run it at 22-25psi and only make those numbers. And anytime I go in they try to tell me that I need to buy the Evotech tune.... (I've known Rich for a long time, ever since he opened basically) nooooo way.
Your dyno seems more on par for their tunes. I'm amazed that they managed to run it at 22-25psi and only make those numbers. And anytime I go in they try to tell me that I need to buy the Evotech tune.... (I've known Rich for a long time, ever since he opened basically) nooooo way.
#311
It is however, very nasty stuff, will take the paint right off. It's also a known carcinogen.
If I want extra octane I just mix 100-octane with our 91 crap. Or I'll wait till im nearly out, and then go fill up with some 100. It does wonders in this car . There's a couple places in town that have it at the pump.
#312
The next upgrade would be a larger turbo, I wish I could afford to help test that now.
#313
Toluene is safe for motors, but depending on fuel lines and pumps, it can be somewhat damaging to them. But you likely won't be running it straight or tank after tank, so it shouldn't be a problem.
It is however, very nasty stuff, will take the paint right off. It's also a known carcinogen.
If I want extra octane I just mix 100-octane with our 91 crap. Or I'll wait till im nearly out, and then go fill up with some 100. It does wonders in this car . There's a couple places in town that have it at the pump.
It is however, very nasty stuff, will take the paint right off. It's also a known carcinogen.
If I want extra octane I just mix 100-octane with our 91 crap. Or I'll wait till im nearly out, and then go fill up with some 100. It does wonders in this car . There's a couple places in town that have it at the pump.
#315
The turbo will be the weak link in the system as it's pretty much running at its max after you've been tuned. Upgrade to a turbo that can flow more air, then upgrade other internals.
#316
Yep, I would think that a turbo upgrade would be the next logical step up from a tune, FMIC and TBE.
#317
Whoa! Where are you paying $16 a gallon? Go to the Valero on 44th and Chandler....its like 7 something a gallon. Scottsdale Auto Salon which was on Bell Rd had it at the pump as well, and it was much more in my neck of the woods. But somebody (the owner, Joe) didn't pay their bills, and found it necessary to own multiple Lambo Murcielago's and they are out of biz!
No internals will be as rich an experience on a turbo car as upgrading the turbo.
The turbo will be the weak link in the system as it's pretty much running at its max after you've been tuned. Upgrade to a turbo that can flow more air, then upgrade other internals.
No internals will be as rich an experience on a turbo car as upgrading the turbo.
The turbo will be the weak link in the system as it's pretty much running at its max after you've been tuned. Upgrade to a turbo that can flow more air, then upgrade other internals.
See I think just jumping into a turbo upgrade without newer stronger internals is backwards, but that probably just me.
#321
I can't speak for everyone in here, but $795 and $895 seem to be ever so slightly beyond that point.
That said... as a customer, I'll raise hell if you try bump my invoice an extra $4.99!
#322
LOL! Glad to see there is still some lighthearted humor on NAM. It was absent for a very long time! Thanks!
#323
Well all I can say right now is:
"Holy Crap. Its freakin' fast"
I'm just talking about the order processing! In a matter of 45 minutes, my order for the Access Porrt and FMIC was processed and I got the shipping information. Most vendors out there take a few days for that to happen.
Maybe Aesthetic Creations should buy a couple of Access Ports and connect them to their botties!
"Holy Crap. Its freakin' fast"
I'm just talking about the order processing! In a matter of 45 minutes, my order for the Access Porrt and FMIC was processed and I got the shipping information. Most vendors out there take a few days for that to happen.
Maybe Aesthetic Creations should buy a couple of Access Ports and connect them to their botties!
#324
Well all I can say right now is:
"Holy Crap. Its freakin' fast"
I'm just talking about the order processing! In a matter of 45 minutes, my order for the Access Porrt and FMIC was processed and I got the shipping information. Most vendors out there take a few days for that to happen.
Maybe Aesthetic Creations should buy a couple of Access Ports and connect them to their botties!
"Holy Crap. Its freakin' fast"
I'm just talking about the order processing! In a matter of 45 minutes, my order for the Access Porrt and FMIC was processed and I got the shipping information. Most vendors out there take a few days for that to happen.
Maybe Aesthetic Creations should buy a couple of Access Ports and connect them to their botties!