Drivetrain Decat caused power and torque lost?
#7
On a turbo?
I do not think you will see any loss of low end power running catless. The turbo provides plenty of backpressure and opening up the exchaust after the turbo will only give you a faster spool up and more poweracross the whole rpm range. Probably most noticeable on the low end. Send me your JCW cat and call it a day.
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#8
Catless
IMHO running catless will only give you more power over the whole rpm range. Our cars do not suffer a power loss due to lower backpressure because our turbo provides backpressure. Anything done after the turbo to increase flow will only increase power by allowing faster spool up which will give a most noticeable gain on the low end.
#9
backpressure myth
I see this misinformation a lot. An engine does not need back pressure to make power. It is true that properly designed exhaust for an N/A car will result in some amount of backpressure as a byproduct of the design (tube dimeter/length, etc). It is NOT the backpressure that makes power, but the design of the exhaust. To quote a Garrett turbo development engineer who posted this on NASIOC many years ago "...The backpressure is an undesireable byproduct of the desire to have a certain degree of exhaust velocity..." Again, this is for N/A exhaust design.
For a turbo car, the same is true with respect to backpressure. Note the exhaust in a turbo car is not designed optimize scavenging as in the N/A exhaust. Since the turbo produces boost via an exhaust pressure ratio across it, you will of course have lots of backpressure in the exhaust system upstream of the turbo when under boost. Minimizing backpressure downstream of the turbo really helps due to the pressure ratio and the way it multiplies backpressure across the turbo. To answer the question about removing a cat from the exhaust system, pretty much anything you can do to reduce exhaust backpressure at a given boost level will increase the VE of the engine.
JL
For a turbo car, the same is true with respect to backpressure. Note the exhaust in a turbo car is not designed optimize scavenging as in the N/A exhaust. Since the turbo produces boost via an exhaust pressure ratio across it, you will of course have lots of backpressure in the exhaust system upstream of the turbo when under boost. Minimizing backpressure downstream of the turbo really helps due to the pressure ratio and the way it multiplies backpressure across the turbo. To answer the question about removing a cat from the exhaust system, pretty much anything you can do to reduce exhaust backpressure at a given boost level will increase the VE of the engine.
JL
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