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Old 09-29-2011, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AZblackOUT
I will get some pictures of the valve cover up shortly.
Did you already make these pictures?
 
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Hmm, such pictures would help a lot... this topic is discussed intensively in many forums in the whole world! One groups says it is internally solved, another group say that the PCV immediately into the intake manifold is completely remove, but nobody could prove its statement... hence, such a picture would be very nice
 
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:14 PM
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I would like some more information as well, I was excited about not having to worry about carbon buildup but this has got me wondering. I bought the can anyways just a peace of mind.

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I've never looked at the N18, but just by looking at RealOEM, they show a crankcase vent tube going to the driver side of the turbo intake tube (#1), as well as the one that is on both the N14 and N18 (#19). It appears that there are still two PCV tubes, but now both dump into the turbo intake tube. But then again, I'm probably not looking at it correctly. I apologize if that's the case.
 
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That first one has a pic of a hose going to the air intake housing but on my 2011 that is a dummy plug. No hose there but there is a sensor.
 
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Well that explains that. I was wondering why I had never seen it mentioned anywhere else.
 
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The N18 motor has direct ports cast into the head from the space under the head cover to the intake ports. They take the place of the PCV hose from the head cover to the throttle body, on the N14 motor. They also changed the orientation of the other PCV hose from the left hand side of the head cover to the turbo intake. The actual PCV valve is integral to the head cover and works for both the intake ports, when there is no boost, and the hose to the turbo intake, when there is boost.

I haven't seen any complaints about valves carboning up on N18 engines, though they are still new. MINI may have solved that problem, though.

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Old 10-23-2011, 11:47 AM
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After another few weeks i still have no liquid in my catch can but some nasty residue.

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Old 10-24-2011, 08:37 PM
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Just took my breather hose off on my N18 R60 tonight, and was surprised to find quite a bit of crap (liquid oil, gunk) in the tube and the chamber.

Looks like I'll need to stick with my plan to get a can.
 
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Originally Posted by theta
Just took my breather hose off on my N18 R60 tonight, and was surprised to find quite a bit of crap (liquid oil, gunk) in the tube and the chamber.

Looks like I'll need to stick with my plan to get a can.
Are you the lucky winner, then? I may have just missed it, but I didn't see anyone else that seemed to think a CC was necessary or would do much. I'm sure you noticed at DoS:

**Note: This catch can kit is specifically for the 2011+ R55, R56, & R57 MCS. This catch can kit will not fit the MINI Countryman S (R60).**
 
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:18 PM
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I can only tell you what I saw - can't speak for the others.

There are a few other ways to do it on the R60 N18, but I'm still going to keep an eye on the buildup before wasting the time and energy to do so.

I cleaned the tube out last week, and will wait another few weeks and check the level of build-up again. It may be a non-issue.
 
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:03 PM
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After running the BSH OCC for a little over 3 months on my N18 (including some spirited motoring at MITO) I can finally see about 2 mm of fluid at the bottom of the can by peering down the dipstick hole with a flashlight. I guess it's working more efficiently now with the cooler ambient temps.

Still not enough volume to bother draining, but it's good to know it wasn't a completely frivolous mod.
 
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:17 PM
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It's not so much the efficiency at cold temps, it's the fact that you will gt more blow-by in cold temps
 
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The can is also cool enough to allow the liquid to condense. I have had mine since August in Houston and am just now seeing liquid. It has some really nasty film on it since day one so I am content with it.

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The cold weather is always a reminder that oil catch cans are a good idea.

Another factor to consider is that oil catch cans start collecting even more junk as our MINIs get older. As seals age and don't work as well, more blowby and oil byproducts gradually get thrown around your PCV system.

I'm glad that early N18 OCC adopters are reporting the benefits of this preventative maintenance mod.

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Old 11-08-2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini'mon
The cold weather is always a reminder that oil catch cans are a good idea.

Another factor to consider is that oil catch cans start collecting even more junk as our MINIs get older. As seals age and don't work as well, more blowby and oil byproducts gradually get thrown around your PCV system.

I'm glad that early N18 OCC adopters are reporting the benefits of this preventative maintenance mod.

-Clint
Is there any way i could get a diffrent color catch can and tubing from you mini'mon? Sry i know alittle off topic
 
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Achilles honor
Is there any way i could get a diffrent color catch can and tubing from you mini'mon? Sry i know alittle off topic
--Don't want to derail this thread--

I can get you a catch can in a different color. Drop me a PM with what you want and we can discuss.

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Bump for updates from 2011 and 2012 CC users ...are you catching enough to justify the expense?
 
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Bought the BSH for the N18 and returned it due to poor fit and then bought a 42 Draft Designs Can (simpler design, less expensive and simpler/better fit), but haven't bothered permanently mounting it yet, because when I went to do the rough fit, it didn't look like I needed it (yet). I have taken off the stock vent tube to the turbo twice now and it is still clean as a whistle. I took it off most recently last week since I figured that we're now getting into freezing overnight temperatures that now would be the time to start seeing stuff....Nothing. I do 10 mile commutes and take short trips between buildings, so you'd think my car would be a good candidate since it sometimes doesn't get to fully warm up....
 

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Originally Posted by selder
bump for updates from 2011 and 2012 cc users ...are you catching enough to justify the expense?
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:22 PM
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I check mine every time i get gas and there is always a horrible smell and film on it but until today the weather in houston has not dropped below 50 so this week will be a good update. It is also worth mentioning that i typically drive long distances 30 to 40 miles so the car is properly warmed up as well.

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My Post #213 still applies (tho I'm up to about 4 mm). Does it justify the expense? I'd say it's still debatable.

I'm placated by the fact that the finite amount of stuff I am catching isn't ending up in the intercooler. Since the N18 OCC installed between valve cover and intake pipe is only able to function when the manifold is under boost conditions, it's safe to say that the harder you drive your MINI (i.e., the more time spent with the manifold under positive pressure) the more benefit you'll obtain from the can.
 
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I feels as though its justified. It's not like i am being charger per mile or anything. Then again i am a bit of an outlier with respect to my vehicles, i am borderline obsessive with respect to maintenance. Its peace of mind for a decent price

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Old 12-12-2011, 11:11 AM
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Catch Can Goo

Its about 3 ounces or so of really horrible smelling liquid. There is no oil or thick liquid just this runny orange fuel smelling stuff. I would say it's worth getting just based on the look and smell. I will check again in a week or so.
The car has 11,000 miles on it now (since august) and It has just gotten cold enough to condense anything in the can (Houston) The can has been on since about 2000 miles.

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