Drivetrain Forge BOV/RCV Installed / No Vacuum - Odd Blow Off Sounds
#26
I'm going to assume that my electrical connections are sound, and re-run some nicer tubing. Maybe there's a kink somewhere...
They sent along some 3/16" tubing, but I'm going to use 5/32" fuel line. Any problem with using slightly smaller with a thicker wall? Better for the heat in there...
They sent along some 3/16" tubing, but I'm going to use 5/32" fuel line. Any problem with using slightly smaller with a thicker wall? Better for the heat in there...
#27
Shouldnt be a problem but you also shouldnt have to do that.
I'm going to assume that my electrical connections are sound, and re-run some nicer tubing. Maybe there's a kink somewhere...
They sent along some 3/16" tubing, but I'm going to use 5/32" fuel line. Any problem with using slightly smaller with a thicker wall? Better for the heat in there...
They sent along some 3/16" tubing, but I'm going to use 5/32" fuel line. Any problem with using slightly smaller with a thicker wall? Better for the heat in there...
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#30
Here is a video (not mine) of the Forge RCV/BOV on an R56, and it sounds exactly like mine. Guess I'm not the only one with that weird sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPDh_Vp2jg
I'm going to run new line from the MAP tap to the horizontal nipple on the solenoid, but leave the silicone hoses that are attached to the BPV. If for no other reason than to not kill my hands again. Nearly broke my thumb and actually slit my wrist putting that damned thing in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPDh_Vp2jg
I'm going to run new line from the MAP tap to the horizontal nipple on the solenoid, but leave the silicone hoses that are attached to the BPV. If for no other reason than to not kill my hands again. Nearly broke my thumb and actually slit my wrist putting that damned thing in.
#32
Yep, that's what it sounds like. NOW, that being said, since you were kind enough to fix my other issue, I'm going to patch her back up here and take her out for a drive in about an hour.
We shall see if the vacuum issue had something to do with the sound, etc. If it's still not resolved... I guess new lines, and after that... God knows...
We shall see if the vacuum issue had something to do with the sound, etc. If it's still not resolved... I guess new lines, and after that... God knows...
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#39
Well, this problem seems solved, as well.
My vac issues have been solved with the exception of the boost gauge showing correct pressure. That's still a toss up...
Forge has re-designed the BPV/BOV kit for the R60 to tap off of a vac source on the block. Unlike the R56 kit, it does not appear that it comes with a boost tap, though the rest of the kit is nearly identical (they throw in a t-tap).
After plugging into that vac source, I drove for an hour today and didn't experience anything other than the normal 'whoosh' - no more flutter dump.
I'm quite sure that what I was hearing was compressor stall (not surge) since the other vac source (boost tap) wasn't getting any vacuum to the BPV, and hence, not moving the piston back in time to re-circulate the pressure. Hence, the flutter dump.
Thanks for the help, guys. Really appreciate it, as always.
My vac issues have been solved with the exception of the boost gauge showing correct pressure. That's still a toss up...
Forge has re-designed the BPV/BOV kit for the R60 to tap off of a vac source on the block. Unlike the R56 kit, it does not appear that it comes with a boost tap, though the rest of the kit is nearly identical (they throw in a t-tap).
After plugging into that vac source, I drove for an hour today and didn't experience anything other than the normal 'whoosh' - no more flutter dump.
I'm quite sure that what I was hearing was compressor stall (not surge) since the other vac source (boost tap) wasn't getting any vacuum to the BPV, and hence, not moving the piston back in time to re-circulate the pressure. Hence, the flutter dump.
Thanks for the help, guys. Really appreciate it, as always.
#41
Well, this problem seems solved, as well.
My vac issues have been solved with the exception of the boost gauge showing correct pressure. That's still a toss up...
Forge has re-designed the BPV/BOV kit for the R60 to tap off of a vac source on the block. Unlike the R56 kit, it does not appear that it comes with a boost tap, though the rest of the kit is nearly identical (they throw in a t-tap).
After plugging into that vac source, I drove for an hour today and didn't experience anything other than the normal 'whoosh' - no more flutter dump.
I'm quite sure that what I was hearing was compressor stall (not surge) since the other vac source (boost tap) wasn't getting any vacuum to the BPV, and hence, not moving the piston back in time to re-circulate the pressure. Hence, the flutter dump.
Thanks for the help, guys. Really appreciate it, as always.
My vac issues have been solved with the exception of the boost gauge showing correct pressure. That's still a toss up...
Forge has re-designed the BPV/BOV kit for the R60 to tap off of a vac source on the block. Unlike the R56 kit, it does not appear that it comes with a boost tap, though the rest of the kit is nearly identical (they throw in a t-tap).
After plugging into that vac source, I drove for an hour today and didn't experience anything other than the normal 'whoosh' - no more flutter dump.
I'm quite sure that what I was hearing was compressor stall (not surge) since the other vac source (boost tap) wasn't getting any vacuum to the BPV, and hence, not moving the piston back in time to re-circulate the pressure. Hence, the flutter dump.
Thanks for the help, guys. Really appreciate it, as always.
Sorry I am too lazy to read the whole thread since there were way too many words. But where did you buy your kit from anyways? I mean, if they have a different kit for R60, why would they sell you an R56 kit anyways?
#42
Wow, less than 2 full pages? And I thought I was lazy...
Regardless of the reseller, the R60 kits were originally the R56 kits. The parts are all the same, and the implementation was the same.
Only a few days ago, the 'new' R60 kits started shipping from the UK (even Forge US has one unit). The updates that I know of are:
1) Fixing the connector (we've all shaved the extra plastic off).
2) Tapping into another vac source / not using a boost tap.
So, the R56 kit is fine, as well. It just takes a bit more patience to set up correctly. In my case, I had an issue with vacuum pressure at the boost tap (that's in another, much longer thread).
The new R60 kits should be for sale in the next few weeks, as far as I know. Regardless, it's pretty much patched up at this point. I'll just need to find a good boost tap to use since I've had issues getting vac. pressure using a tap under the MAP sensor. Again, long thread on that one.
Regardless of the reseller, the R60 kits were originally the R56 kits. The parts are all the same, and the implementation was the same.
Only a few days ago, the 'new' R60 kits started shipping from the UK (even Forge US has one unit). The updates that I know of are:
1) Fixing the connector (we've all shaved the extra plastic off).
2) Tapping into another vac source / not using a boost tap.
So, the R56 kit is fine, as well. It just takes a bit more patience to set up correctly. In my case, I had an issue with vacuum pressure at the boost tap (that's in another, much longer thread).
The new R60 kits should be for sale in the next few weeks, as far as I know. Regardless, it's pretty much patched up at this point. I'll just need to find a good boost tap to use since I've had issues getting vac. pressure using a tap under the MAP sensor. Again, long thread on that one.
#43
Wow, less than 2 full pages? And I thought I was lazy...
Regardless of the reseller, the R60 kits were originally the R56 kits. The parts are all the same, and the implementation was the same.
Only a few days ago, the 'new' R60 kits started shipping from the UK (even Forge US has one unit). The updates that I know of are:
1) Fixing the connector (we've all shaved the extra plastic off).
2) Tapping into another vac source / not using a boost tap.
So, the R56 kit is fine, as well. It just takes a bit more patience to set up correctly. In my case, I had an issue with vacuum pressure at the boost tap (that's in another, much longer thread).
The new R60 kits should be for sale in the next few weeks, as far as I know. Regardless, it's pretty much patched up at this point. I'll just need to find a good boost tap to use since I've had issues getting vac. pressure using a tap under the MAP sensor. Again, long thread on that one.
Regardless of the reseller, the R60 kits were originally the R56 kits. The parts are all the same, and the implementation was the same.
Only a few days ago, the 'new' R60 kits started shipping from the UK (even Forge US has one unit). The updates that I know of are:
1) Fixing the connector (we've all shaved the extra plastic off).
2) Tapping into another vac source / not using a boost tap.
So, the R56 kit is fine, as well. It just takes a bit more patience to set up correctly. In my case, I had an issue with vacuum pressure at the boost tap (that's in another, much longer thread).
The new R60 kits should be for sale in the next few weeks, as far as I know. Regardless, it's pretty much patched up at this point. I'll just need to find a good boost tap to use since I've had issues getting vac. pressure using a tap under the MAP sensor. Again, long thread on that one.
Sorry for being lazy, but the terms used in this thread are too technical for me. But nonetheless, thank you so much for replying to my post!
So in conclusion, the new R56 kits coming out of UK should be improved and trouble free, right? I think I heard before that some people were experiencing problems like the plug in one of their wire wouldn't plug into the car all the way or something. Is that the connector thing you were talking about? Sorry for being stupid, but for those two improvements you talked about above, do they apply to the R56 kit as well or just R60 specific? Please advise. Thanks!
#45
Sorry for being lazy, but the terms used in this thread are too technical for me. But nonetheless, thank you so much for replying to my post!
So in conclusion, the new R56 kits coming out of UK should be improved and trouble free, right? I think I heard before that some people were experiencing problems like the plug in one of their wire wouldn't plug into the car all the way or something. Is that the connector thing you were talking about? Sorry for being stupid, but for those two improvements you talked about above, do they apply to the R56 kit as well or just R60 specific? Please advise. Thanks!
So in conclusion, the new R56 kits coming out of UK should be improved and trouble free, right? I think I heard before that some people were experiencing problems like the plug in one of their wire wouldn't plug into the car all the way or something. Is that the connector thing you were talking about? Sorry for being stupid, but for those two improvements you talked about above, do they apply to the R56 kit as well or just R60 specific? Please advise. Thanks!
I can't speak for the kits, as I'm not with Forge. However, I've been fairly involved in getting info from Forge and a few resellers, and have shared what I know here.
The connectors may have been different in other versions, as well. I know they required modification on the R60. The change in routing from the tap to a vac. line is specific to the R60 only, as far as I know.
#46
#47
Not a problem!
I can't speak for the kits, as I'm not with Forge. However, I've been fairly involved in getting info from Forge and a few resellers, and have shared what I know here.
The connectors may have been different in other versions, as well. I know they required modification on the R60. The change in routing from the tap to a vac. line is specific to the R60 only, as far as I know.
I can't speak for the kits, as I'm not with Forge. However, I've been fairly involved in getting info from Forge and a few resellers, and have shared what I know here.
The connectors may have been different in other versions, as well. I know they required modification on the R60. The change in routing from the tap to a vac. line is specific to the R60 only, as far as I know.
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