Drivetrain The Always Up-to-Date Thread on Tuning 2011+ (N18) MINIs
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thats partially why i wish that he used a dyno while tuning. really wish i knew my numbers. hmmm well then, ill really have to check out NM as an option then. youre scaring me away from RMW haha. well i spoke to jags. im thinking about just getting a stock dp. duuuuuude Rob sent me yours!!! haha im actually serious. ill obviously pay for it. would it fit on a 2011 clubman s??
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http://www.smokeysdyno.com/mini.html
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That's smokey's dyno, I for some reason believe it's funny that it's the same price as ETG and produces less power than any of the tuners who can tune a N18. Not only that but ETG(Jags) said he would send me to Akron to get a dyno for free(more than two runs).
As for the forums, here...
http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w2...u-upgrade.html
Mind you these guys on the Mercedes forum, seem like complete d***s. But as I started to read more and more it became apparent this guy Jags Gill is probably using a tuning file that is either stolen or used by a buddy of his that produced LESS power than advertised. I could save $100 and go to NM and make sure I know what I am getting.
Another forum for the Audi R8 people...
http://www.r8talk.com/forums/5-gener...check-out.html
^^
In this forum people are questioning his credibility because he said his company was the first one to tune the R8, which wasn't the case. Also, they couldn't dyno the car right then and there. Another issue was that ECU tuning group used to be Singh Autosport or known by that from the U.K.
As for somewhat positives,
^^
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e63...hp-gain-2.html
This one is kinda mixed reviews of the tune, some people liked it but some didn't think the numbers were good enough from the Jaguar community,
http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xf...-review-75060/
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That's smokey's dyno, I for some reason believe it's funny that it's the same price as ETG and produces less power than any of the tuners who can tune a N18. Not only that but ETG(Jags) said he would send me to Akron to get a dyno for free(more than two runs).
As for the forums, here...
http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w2...u-upgrade.html
Mind you these guys on the Mercedes forum, seem like complete d***s. But as I started to read more and more it became apparent this guy Jags Gill is probably using a tuning file that is either stolen or used by a buddy of his that produced LESS power than advertised. I could save $100 and go to NM and make sure I know what I am getting.
Another forum for the Audi R8 people...
http://www.r8talk.com/forums/5-gener...check-out.html
^^
In this forum people are questioning his credibility because he said his company was the first one to tune the R8, which wasn't the case. Also, they couldn't dyno the car right then and there. Another issue was that ECU tuning group used to be Singh Autosport or known by that from the U.K.
As for somewhat positives,
^^
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e63...hp-gain-2.html
This one is kinda mixed reviews of the tune, some people liked it but some didn't think the numbers were good enough from the Jaguar community,
http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xf...-review-75060/
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thats partially why i wish that he used a dyno while tuning. really wish i knew my numbers. hmmm well then, ill really have to check out NM as an option then. youre scaring me away from RMW haha. well i spoke to jags. im thinking about just getting a stock dp. duuuuuude Rob sent me yours!!! haha im actually serious. ill obviously pay for it. would it fit on a 2011 clubman s??
Talk to Jerry bud! (800) 423.3623 that's NM's phone number.
But don't deal with RMW, basically cross them off your list. He loves his R53's.
But I sent you a PM.
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Instead of spending more money on parts to make the car run why not have him fix the tune for you?
A true tuner can go in and change parameters to make it work with what's on the car.
Your car ran good before you went to ETG.
They are the only ones who have touched your ECU....safe to say its the tune. Danny at Minicorsa knows Mini's/BMW's, if he says it's the tune, I would most likely agree with him.
Don't get jacked for your $ man, that's coinage in this economy.
A true tuner can go in and change parameters to make it work with what's on the car.
Your car ran good before you went to ETG.
They are the only ones who have touched your ECU....safe to say its the tune. Danny at Minicorsa knows Mini's/BMW's, if he says it's the tune, I would most likely agree with him.
Don't get jacked for your $ man, that's coinage in this economy.
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03-24-2013, 11:17 AM
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I couldnt wait anymore. So i went ahead and installed the akrapovic dp on my already ETG tuned car.
I had it for about a week and the first couple of days the check engine light did not come on(o2 sensor thing). But i spoke too soon. It came on yesterday. Oh well.
But so far i have not had any over boost issues. I dont have a boost guage but im looking to install one. How does it feel like anyway?
I have been driving my car HARD since the DP was installed. My friend with a Hyundai genesis coupe rspec were doing some 1/4 miles at this empty staight away we know of and using the iphone dynolicious app. I know my car isnt made for drag but it was the only way i get to really push it really hard to see if any errors come up. My friend and I mustve did at least 7-8 runs. While my car did not win any of these races, i defintely kept it close, especially on a roll where traction was already accomplished.
Before the ETG tune i had a JCW tune and that was advertised as 200hp but the ETG tune feels way more power than the JCW tune.
According to the dynolicious app(which is pretty accurate according to a lot of people who compared numbers against an actual dyno), my car has around 202 WHP plus the whatever percentage of drivetrain loss is.
Anyways, my best time was 13.9.
Ask any questions. Or tell me what i should be looking for when overboost happens.
I had it for about a week and the first couple of days the check engine light did not come on(o2 sensor thing). But i spoke too soon. It came on yesterday. Oh well.
But so far i have not had any over boost issues. I dont have a boost guage but im looking to install one. How does it feel like anyway?
I have been driving my car HARD since the DP was installed. My friend with a Hyundai genesis coupe rspec were doing some 1/4 miles at this empty staight away we know of and using the iphone dynolicious app. I know my car isnt made for drag but it was the only way i get to really push it really hard to see if any errors come up. My friend and I mustve did at least 7-8 runs. While my car did not win any of these races, i defintely kept it close, especially on a roll where traction was already accomplished.
Before the ETG tune i had a JCW tune and that was advertised as 200hp but the ETG tune feels way more power than the JCW tune.
According to the dynolicious app(which is pretty accurate according to a lot of people who compared numbers against an actual dyno), my car has around 202 WHP plus the whatever percentage of drivetrain loss is.
Anyways, my best time was 13.9.
Ask any questions. Or tell me what i should be looking for when overboost happens.
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03-24-2013, 01:29 PM
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03-24-2013, 01:31 PM
Oh ok. Got it. I have not gotten that. But that sounds scary.
I will let everyone know if it does.
But so far nothing. Hopefully it stays that way...
#792
03-24-2013, 02:21 PM
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Yeah, I mean, why bother to deal with a tuner that has more experience tuning Mini's than anyone else. Why bother dealing with a tuner who's tuned cars currently lead 3 series! 1st in World Challenge, 1st in Rolex and 1st, 2nd and 5th in Continental.....
I really can't believe some of the misinformation on this board....
I really can't believe some of the misinformation on this board....
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He CAN'T tune n18's and he said he won't!
Can't believe you didn't ask him.
As far as R53's and N14 MCS's the dude is great, I don't care about those platforms. I care about these N18's since he's not giving the time and resources on them. If he did, he would have been my first option.
I'm not trying to be a d*** when I say that.
Can't believe you didn't ask him.
As far as R53's and N14 MCS's the dude is great, I don't care about those platforms. I care about these N18's since he's not giving the time and resources on them. If he did, he would have been my first option.
I'm not trying to be a d*** when I say that.
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I'm more pissed off as to why he doesn't want to touch the ECU?
I seen an email here on the forum saying he can't right now crack the codes.
But believe me like I said he was my first option cause of Detroit Tuned. Now I'm stuck with either NM or ETG. God help us N18ers at this point who have issues with the dates on the car or because of mods.
Hopefully in a year or less he can put forth the effort to give us a tune, I'm willing to pay 750 with a dyno like Detroit Tuned told me when I first bought the car.
I seen an email here on the forum saying he can't right now crack the codes.
But believe me like I said he was my first option cause of Detroit Tuned. Now I'm stuck with either NM or ETG. God help us N18ers at this point who have issues with the dates on the car or because of mods.
Hopefully in a year or less he can put forth the effort to give us a tune, I'm willing to pay 750 with a dyno like Detroit Tuned told me when I first bought the car.
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03-24-2013, 04:44 PM
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03-24-2013, 04:54 PM
Good Topic
Finally, a group talking about tuning. Currently researching catless dp's and came across ar design. Only 3" dp on the market. Anyone running this? Also, anyone been tuned at rennlogic in chicago. Use renntech tunes??? Helix fmic on the way. Ready for the next step. Thanks in advance.
#798
03-24-2013, 05:36 PM
brentuning.com , I know Bren personally and have for many years, he's tuned my subarus in the past and does a LOT of BMW's with outstanding results both on the dyno and road tuning. He is well versed in N14 and N18 tuning. He's an extremely talented tuner and think if anyone wants to send an ecu for a tune, you should contact him. You can find reviews on bimmerforum and other bmw forums, and subaru forums. As far as N18's go, you need to bench tune, meaning, pull apart the ECU physically in order to create a communication to the DME's map(s).
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Rob,
That's why I always ask. Hyundai always exaggerates their numbers in regards to horsepower. A 2013 Genesis Coupe is supposed to have 350hp. I wouldn't be surprised if it has only 250whp if not less. My friends stock BMW 328i (230hp) whoops the Genesis Coupe in a straight line any day. I am surprised too that a MINI keeps up with a 3.8 v6 but I bet that they can overtake a 2.0T at the track or even drag. Sorry for going off topic.
On Topic: NM is the best tune on the market with lots of testimonials demonstrating their abilities. IMO if someone says a tune is good and not many people have tried and tested it then they are doing something wrong whether it is in the marketing dept. or the quality/price depts. I don't know and don't care. Jags at ETG is a good talker but so far no dynos = don't know what I'm buying.
That's why I always ask. Hyundai always exaggerates their numbers in regards to horsepower. A 2013 Genesis Coupe is supposed to have 350hp. I wouldn't be surprised if it has only 250whp if not less. My friends stock BMW 328i (230hp) whoops the Genesis Coupe in a straight line any day. I am surprised too that a MINI keeps up with a 3.8 v6 but I bet that they can overtake a 2.0T at the track or even drag. Sorry for going off topic.
On Topic: NM is the best tune on the market with lots of testimonials demonstrating their abilities. IMO if someone says a tune is good and not many people have tried and tested it then they are doing something wrong whether it is in the marketing dept. or the quality/price depts. I don't know and don't care. Jags at ETG is a good talker but so far no dynos = don't know what I'm buying.