Drivetrain The Always Up-to-Date Thread on Tuning 2011+ (N18) MINIs
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Hey guys. I have a 2012 Countryman S built in 04/12 .
Going to be bringing her over to the ECU Tuning Group in Fremont tomorrow morning. They said they don't forsee a problem, but I'll definitely keep you guys updated.
So for a total n00b, does someone want to outline what exactly is preventing the tune in the later model ECU's for everybody but Renntech it seems? Is it a new encryption, or something else more complicated?
Going to be bringing her over to the ECU Tuning Group in Fremont tomorrow morning. They said they don't forsee a problem, but I'll definitely keep you guys updated.
So for a total n00b, does someone want to outline what exactly is preventing the tune in the later model ECU's for everybody but Renntech it seems? Is it a new encryption, or something else more complicated?
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Well, I just figured I would check to see if there was any news from ALTA on the N18 since I have my 2013 JCW on order and here's the response I got from them.
Hi John,
Thank you for contacting ALTA Performance.
The AccessPORT will not be made available for the N18 engine MINI, sorry.
Please let us know if you have any more questions.
Thank you for your business
John Leitl
Sales Manager
ALTA Performance
Hi John,
Thank you for contacting ALTA Performance.
The AccessPORT will not be made available for the N18 engine MINI, sorry.
Please let us know if you have any more questions.
Thank you for your business
John Leitl
Sales Manager
ALTA Performance
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I hear you on the frustration as well. I had the Alta AP for my 2009 JCW (as well as the COBB AP for a 2008 BMW 335i) and was a huge fan of the product, recommending it to many others. It's pretty frustrating that all they can say is no we're not gonna support the N18. Not even a reason or any sincere explanation, basically just a go away and stop asking response. Hopefully Evolve will come out with their Evolver flash tuner for the N18. Since their based in the U.K. but also with U.S. operations, they have a wider base of MINI drivers to sell to and will make the effort.
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Hey guys. I have a 2012 Countryman S built in 04/12 .
Going to be bringing her over to the ECU Tuning Group in Fremont tomorrow morning. They said they don't forsee a problem, but I'll definitely keep you guys updated.
So for a total n00b, does someone want to outline what exactly is preventing the tune in the later model ECU's for everybody but Renntech it seems? Is it a new encryption, or something else more complicated?
Going to be bringing her over to the ECU Tuning Group in Fremont tomorrow morning. They said they don't forsee a problem, but I'll definitely keep you guys updated.
So for a total n00b, does someone want to outline what exactly is preventing the tune in the later model ECU's for everybody but Renntech it seems? Is it a new encryption, or something else more complicated?
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Does this mean that, due to the encryption on the N18s, ETG is not yet able to tune them (but hopes to be able to shortly)?
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Hujan.
Just got off the phone with ETG. So they spoke with their tool manufacturers, and those guys had never dealt with our ECU's before. (Not MINI ECU in general, this new generation post 02/12 ECU's)
So they didn't think they would have any trouble breaking the ecryption, as soon as they figure out where to attach their probes. So I'm gonna be all y'all's (and by all y'all I mean those with new bastard ECU's) guinea pig.
On Oct 3rd I'm going to drop off my MINI CM with Goshan at ETG in Fremont. I will be getting my ECU shipped off to Europe where they'll probe it and hopefully decrypt it. Basically if all goes well, ETG will then have the ability to tune these new MINI ECU's.
I'll be carless for a week, but hopefully this opens the doors for all you guys in want of a tune.
Just got off the phone with ETG. So they spoke with their tool manufacturers, and those guys had never dealt with our ECU's before. (Not MINI ECU in general, this new generation post 02/12 ECU's)
So they didn't think they would have any trouble breaking the ecryption, as soon as they figure out where to attach their probes. So I'm gonna be all y'all's (and by all y'all I mean those with new bastard ECU's) guinea pig.
On Oct 3rd I'm going to drop off my MINI CM with Goshan at ETG in Fremont. I will be getting my ECU shipped off to Europe where they'll probe it and hopefully decrypt it. Basically if all goes well, ETG will then have the ability to tune these new MINI ECU's.
I'll be carless for a week, but hopefully this opens the doors for all you guys in want of a tune.
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Hujan.
Just got off the phone with ETG. So they spoke with their tool manufacturers, and those guys had never dealt with our ECU's before. (Not MINI ECU in general, this new generation post 02/12 ECU's)
So they didn't think they would have any trouble breaking the ecryption, as soon as they figure out where to attach their probes. So I'm gonna be all y'all's (and by all y'all I mean those with new bastard ECU's) guinea pig.
On Oct 3rd I'm going to drop off my MINI CM with Goshan at ETG in Fremont. I will be getting my ECU shipped off to Europe where they'll probe it and hopefully decrypt it. Basically if all goes well, ETG will then have the ability to tune these new MINI ECU's.
I'll be carless for a week, but hopefully this opens the doors for all you guys in want of a tune.
Just got off the phone with ETG. So they spoke with their tool manufacturers, and those guys had never dealt with our ECU's before. (Not MINI ECU in general, this new generation post 02/12 ECU's)
So they didn't think they would have any trouble breaking the ecryption, as soon as they figure out where to attach their probes. So I'm gonna be all y'all's (and by all y'all I mean those with new bastard ECU's) guinea pig.
On Oct 3rd I'm going to drop off my MINI CM with Goshan at ETG in Fremont. I will be getting my ECU shipped off to Europe where they'll probe it and hopefully decrypt it. Basically if all goes well, ETG will then have the ability to tune these new MINI ECU's.
I'll be carless for a week, but hopefully this opens the doors for all you guys in want of a tune.
Originally Posted by DKIKK77
Just curious, why not just ship it to renntech where we know they can do it?
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$900 option vs. $700 option
Plus, not to start a flame war, but what's interesting is that Renntech uses the same tools as ETG, however the toolmaker has told ETG that they've never seen this particular ECU before. This is of course word of mouth from ETG, so I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
Also, talking to the Renntech distributor out here in the Bay Area (I'm based in northern California) didn't do much to inspire confidence in the process. I had reached out to them at the same time I had reached out to ETG and NM-engineering. Both ETG and NM seemed much more involved in the whole process. Unfortunately, as you know NM isn't able to tune the newer ECU's yet, so I went to ETG who seemed willing to work with me.
Honestly, I see it as an opportunity to open up more options for those of us with newer ECU's.
Plus, not to start a flame war, but what's interesting is that Renntech uses the same tools as ETG, however the toolmaker has told ETG that they've never seen this particular ECU before. This is of course word of mouth from ETG, so I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
Also, talking to the Renntech distributor out here in the Bay Area (I'm based in northern California) didn't do much to inspire confidence in the process. I had reached out to them at the same time I had reached out to ETG and NM-engineering. Both ETG and NM seemed much more involved in the whole process. Unfortunately, as you know NM isn't able to tune the newer ECU's yet, so I went to ETG who seemed willing to work with me.
Honestly, I see it as an opportunity to open up more options for those of us with newer ECU's.
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$900 option vs. $700 option
Plus, not to start a flame war, but what's interesting is that Renntech uses the same tools as ETG, however the toolmaker has told ETG that they've never seen this particular ECU before. This is of course word of mouth from ETG, so I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
Also, talking to the Renntech distributor out here in the Bay Area (I'm based in northern California) didn't do much to inspire confidence in the process. I had reached out to them at the same time I had reached out to ETG and NM-engineering. Both ETG and NM seemed much more involved in the whole process. Unfortunately, as you know NM isn't able to tune the newer ECU's yet, so I went to ETG who seemed willing to work with me.
Honestly, I see it as an opportunity to open up more options for those of us with newer ECU's.
Plus, not to start a flame war, but what's interesting is that Renntech uses the same tools as ETG, however the toolmaker has told ETG that they've never seen this particular ECU before. This is of course word of mouth from ETG, so I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
Also, talking to the Renntech distributor out here in the Bay Area (I'm based in northern California) didn't do much to inspire confidence in the process. I had reached out to them at the same time I had reached out to ETG and NM-engineering. Both ETG and NM seemed much more involved in the whole process. Unfortunately, as you know NM isn't able to tune the newer ECU's yet, so I went to ETG who seemed willing to work with me.
Honestly, I see it as an opportunity to open up more options for those of us with newer ECU's.
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I come from the Rotary community (my last car was an RX-8) where people were tight knit and were pretty willing guinea pigs for each other. Figured this was my way of paying it forward where I can.
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Monday AM Jerry at EuroTechs in Tempe Az installed my Forge IC on my 2011 MCS hard top with auto transmission. At noon Monday I over nighted my ECU to NM Engineering in Calif. It was back in my hands in Phx at 1PM Wed. A 48 hr turn around. Great service. Performance is fantastic. Will have dyno numbers in late fall when it will be much nicer weather here.
NM CB, NM CAI NM rear sway bar NM springs Brake Tech SS brake lines and Kumho Ecxta 4X
NM CB, NM CAI NM rear sway bar NM springs Brake Tech SS brake lines and Kumho Ecxta 4X
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Monday AM Jerry at EuroTechs in Tempe Az installed my Forge IC on my 2011 MCS hard top with auto transmission. At noon Monday I over nighted my ECU to NM Engineering in Calif. It was back in my hands in Phx at 1PM Wed. A 48 hr turn around. Great service. Performance is fantastic. Will have dyno numbers in late fall when it will be much nicer weather here.
NM CB, NM CAI NM rear sway bar NM springs Brake Tech SS brake lines and Kumho Ecxta 4X
NM CB, NM CAI NM rear sway bar NM springs Brake Tech SS brake lines and Kumho Ecxta 4X