well im gonna go ahead and give them one last try and if nothing happens ill return them and get the Bosch 0280158096. lets home i will be able too return them if they dont work out.

my new clamps came in so im gonna try it this wensday.

 

I don't know why you would think this. As far as I can tell, the guy at USRT said just the opposite.

 

Let us know if you find a source for those 096's.

 

I think you're right. I misinterpreted what he said. Anyhow, they need to update their site and product descriptions to reflect this significant change in the 380's.

Regarding the Bosch 0280158096, you can buy them new from a Volvo dealer, but at that point I doubt they'd be cheaper than JCW's. The benefit here is that these injectors are used on several newer Volvos in the US, and even more cars in the UK, so they're available "on the cheap" if you're OK with buying used, low mileage injectors.

 

I haven't seen any on eBay or search engines. I haven't tried looking for a Volvo forum though. I did email "mech-tronic" a week ago as suggested, but haven't got a response.

Not really interested in used ones though.

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I made a list of all the cars that the Bosch 0280158096 injector is used on from the factory earlier in this thread:

2005-2011 Volvo C30, C70, S40, V50 with the T5 motors. They MUST be the T5 (turbo 5 cylinder) engines. Also, Bosch #0280158096 and #0280158025 are interchangeable and have identical specs. Both are usable.

Interchangeable OEM Volvo Part#'s, if you wanted to buy directly from Volvo:
VOLVO 30757309
VOLVO 30757534
VOLVO 8653891

If you're not interested in used, then I would just pony-up and buy new JCW units. I'm willing to bet that a Volvo dealer wants ~$100 per injector.

The other option is buying them from the UK. The 2.5L 2005-2009 Ford Focus ST (again, Turbo 5 cylinder) uses these as factory parts, as does the 2.5L 2007-2009 Ford Mondeo (Turbo 5 cylinder). You can get 5 injectors for $100 all day long on Ebay.UK. This is what I did, and they work perfectly.

 

I've done countless searches for these since this thread started and have come up with zilch regarding the 096's or 025s'... new. There have been a few used items though. I wasn't interested so I can't ref them.

There are currently only 5... from a wrecked 2008 Focus w/48K... I assume that's 48,000 kilometers for 15 pounds ea. That's probably not a bad deal. Also looks like free shipping to US.

 

Snip . . .

This is exactly the information that I was looking for and I think that others can use.

 

There are complete rails with all 5 injectors on Ebay.UK for ~$55 USD. These are from the Focus ST 225 (not Focus 170). Do not order the units from the Focus 170 (225 and 170 are references to their horsepower).

On the US Ebay page, you can find several full sets of 5 for $100-$175. These are from the aforementioned Volvos.

 

Hey guys I just got myself one of those ST225 fuel rails with injectors.
Will I need converters for the plugs (like the ones Mynes use on the 55o's).
If so any idea which ones, I mean what they're called and maybe where to buy.
F.Y.I I am across the pond in London.

Thanks Dub

 

Yes, you'll need adapters. Also, after you install the injectors and adapters, the intercooler will likely hit the top of the injector connectors once mounted. Use 1/8" of washers on the two rear mounting points for the intercooler to give you extra clearance.

http://www.deatschwerks.com/products...adapter-detail

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Injec...item2c7652fdff

 

Thanks TheBigChill. I ordered some (hopefully) the same from a local stockist.
Let you know how it goes

Just waiting for the dealer to come back to me with whether or not they will do the flash.

I have a copy of DIS/GT1 and SSS INPA and will have to do it myself if they say no.

Anyone successfully done the JCW map themselves?

 

Great Newwsss!!!! itd not a dacia sandero but the injectors work! like i suspected it was user error like the plugs not being pluged in all the way. enginen fired right up and reved fine. but dyno says top end feels better and low end feels a bit worse. but under WOT

i just reset the ecu via the gauges and using the bev tech software, after the test drive. so im at my bros house on the way home and through out the week we will see how the ecu adapts aand make it feel better.

 

You actually have to have the program to do the flash. It's not just in the GT1 program or INPA

 

I am pretty sure DiS is the programme that does it according to the Dealer install manual.
And after it was a factory option it was included in the software update.
The procedure is the same as installing a new DME at the dealer.

JCW 210
JCW 200

 

OK after reading a few more threads around the place i think what your referring to is the actual binary image of the software that would be flashed onto the ecu/dme.

to everyone else (sorry for the random quotes just trying to keep it alive) we're not finished yet we have the injectors but we need the software to run them properly.

i have done some research

Now there is 2 ways this can go:
first
i heard there is a cd with a binary image of the software that would be flashed onto the ecu/dme. now this may be only for the early dealer installs before it was a factory option. and therefore doesn't matter cos they didn't install 380cc injectors

Second
I am sure i read somewhere after the factory installs became available the dealers had it included in the images they had on file inside there software (which in the install guide it says DIS). Now as the 210 option was made available in 2006 we can assume we need a DIS from on or after then to make sure we get the image file that will know about the injector upgrade and regulate the fuel correctly. this may require a jcw kit code or an authorisation code (and potentially more numbers for other things).

But the dealers are doing it so it must be able to be done.
I have the cheap bmw usb to odb2 which comes with the dealer software (DiS/GT1, INPA and SSS) just need to figure out if its new enough. i think.

So the holy grail is to flash the jcw 210 map using BMW diagnostic and programming tools. (and use bosch injectors) all available cheaply on fleebay.

does anyone work for BMW who could confirm one way or the other.
or anyone who could guide us in doing this.

the only people who could lose out are main dealers and I'm sure they don't care about $50 from us.
anyone with serious mods (BVH CAM etc) will get a proper tune where it makes sense to do so.

 

YOUR WELCOME

 

I Vote Sticky

This info is to good to be lost to time.

 

Great post, learned a lot here.

I came about this website: http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/domes...injectors/mini

They sell fuel injectors for MINIs, has anyone ever looked them up? Are they reliable?

I also found the Ford Focus St225 on UK Ebay for 40 pounds, that's for 5 injectors, seems a bargain if postage does not kill it. I am going to go for it let's see.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-FO...item53f1334c8c

 

Stay away from fiveo just drilled out mondeo injectors. had some tested recently and the sprayed like pencils, nearly no atomisation.

Gonna get the ST 225 ones tested tomorrow. i'll let you know.

 

Great let us know, thanks.

 

Ok so spray pattern was ok, not brilliant.
Way better than the fiveo ones.

They are on average around 400cc


very similar pattern to the 550cc Bosch.

 

You can buy factory Mondeo injectors, which are the exact same Bosch injector as the ST225, so long as you stick to the years I noted in previous posts.

Also, regarding FiveO injectors: While I recommend you avoid this company due to lack of transparency, they do not modify all of the injectors they offer. Many are simply factory injectors, matched for use as an upgrade in an unrelated motor (like what we're doing..) They are supposed to make a note in each item description stating whether or not that particular injector has been modified beyond it's factory form. Just worth noting.

 

There's not a thing wrong with that spray pattern on the Bosch 380's- it's perfect for this head. You must be referring to the atomization, which as stated in earlier posts, these, like almost every other EV14 Bosch dual cone, atomize further once the fuel impacts the backside of the intake valve.

The reason they are most like the 550's (Bosch #0280158117), is because they are both Bosch EV14 dual cone injectors.

Also, regarding your "400cc" flow rate, at what fuel pressure did you have these tested? They are 373cc at 3 bar, and 400cc at 3.5 bar (our fuel pressure). The specs I just posted are identical to JCW 380's which were flow tested earlier in this thread.

 

Sorry I ment Mercury not Mondeo

Ford Escort Mercury Tracer Fuel Injector Injectors 0280155796
These are the ones said to be for Mini from FiveO.
Had a pencil not v spray pattern.