Drivetrain Burger Motorsports (BMS) Tune(s)
#301
When I installed mine I simply shut the car down, closed the door, waited for the radiator fan to stop running and plugged it in, restarted and drove off, no problems 1000 miles later.... No cel's, I did scan and found a subcode(probably a chassis code) that stated speedometer speed implausible, I suspect it was from the can tool using the speedo and reading 160mph in 2nd gear, lol.
#302
#304
#305
2011 question was answered in this thread or the other - no longer a problem (mine is a 2011). The CAN tool features are discussed elsewhere, including burgertuning.com - basically, it hijacks your gauges to give you boost/timing, etc. And it's only active when plugged in - so, no dealer issues.
#306
it turned out not to be a 2011 issue. it was just a coincidence that a couple/few 2011s got the same of batch JB+'s that threw a code. that issue was resolved a while ago. it's been "all systems go" since then.
#307
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Because the same "trick" we're using to fool the DME with the N18 doesn't work for the N14. We may do an N14 tune at some point in the future. But for now we have limited resources to focus on the MINI market and decided to concentrate them on the getting the N18 JB+ launched.
#308
Ok here are some data comparing stock tune versus JB+. First this is not a scientific study, the data was taken using DashCommand and an iPhone. I've tried to keep all things the same except for the JB+ install but it isn't perfect so take it for what it is.
I have 150 miles on the car since the install.
Both runs were done under approximately the same weather conditions and both were rolling starts in 2nd gear (the car is an automatic).
As expected the boost is higher but it also looks like it spools faster. It sure does feel like it spools faster. The rolling 5-60 MPH times are noticeably faster also. Driving in traffic the power also seems like it is always there. Damn now I want more.
I have 150 miles on the car since the install.
Both runs were done under approximately the same weather conditions and both were rolling starts in 2nd gear (the car is an automatic).
As expected the boost is higher but it also looks like it spools faster. It sure does feel like it spools faster. The rolling 5-60 MPH times are noticeably faster also. Driving in traffic the power also seems like it is always there. Damn now I want more.
#310
Ok here are some data comparing stock tune versus JB+. First this is not a scientific study, the data was taken using DashCommand and an iPhone. I've tried to keep all things the same except for the JB+ install but it isn't perfect so take it for what it is.
I have 150 miles on the car since the install.
Both runs were done under approximately the same weather conditions and both were rolling starts in 2nd gear (the car is an automatic).
As expected the boost is higher but it also looks like it spools faster. It sure does feel like it spools faster. The rolling 5-60 MPH times are noticeably faster also. Driving in traffic the power also seems like it is always there. Damn now I want more.
I have 150 miles on the car since the install.
Both runs were done under approximately the same weather conditions and both were rolling starts in 2nd gear (the car is an automatic).
As expected the boost is higher but it also looks like it spools faster. It sure does feel like it spools faster. The rolling 5-60 MPH times are noticeably faster also. Driving in traffic the power also seems like it is always there. Damn now I want more.
#311
#312
Well I cleared my codes, turned out to be a maf sensor code. Let the car sit for over a half hour this time with the hood popped, doors locked and the keys in my house. Installed the JB+ and started her up. No code, drove about 35 miles like I normally do, very very spirited driver to begin with. Doing some second thru sixth pulls on some highways ('13 mcs manual) Did not boost past 13psi (I have a defi racer gauge set up) also did not feel any faster at all. Tomorrow morning on my way to work I will hopefully see a difference. Just giving an update for everyone else.
#314
Well I cleared my codes, turned out to be a maf sensor code. Let the car sit for over a half hour this time with the hood popped, doors locked and the keys in my house. Installed the JB+ and started her up. No code, drove about 35 miles like I normally do, very very spirited driver to begin with. Doing some second thru sixth pulls on some highways ('13 mcs manual) Did not boost past 13psi (I have a defi racer gauge set up) also did not feel any faster at all. Tomorrow morning on my way to work I will hopefully see a difference. Just giving an update for everyone else.
#315
Well I cleared my codes, turned out to be a maf sensor code. Let the car sit for over a half hour this time with the hood popped, doors locked and the keys in my house. Installed the JB+ and started her up. No code, drove about 35 miles like I normally do, very very spirited driver to begin with. Doing some second thru sixth pulls on some highways ('13 mcs manual) Did not boost past 13psi (I have a defi racer gauge set up) also did not feel any faster at all. Tomorrow morning on my way to work I will hopefully see a difference. Just giving an update for everyone else.
#316
So sorry I got you riled up with my question. What exactly do I need to give up by asking a question because I like the way this product looks? BMS answered my question directly without being a cunthead. Thanks Terry.
"pidge" take a breath.
"pidge" take a breath.
#317
Relax, lately everyone on this site has a stick in their you know what. A lot of the N14 guys want this, just have to be patient a little. I'm sure Terry will do something for you guys soon:-).
#318
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Well I cleared my codes, turned out to be a maf sensor code. Let the car sit for over a half hour this time with the hood popped, doors locked and the keys in my house. Installed the JB+ and started her up. No code, drove about 35 miles like I normally do, very very spirited driver to begin with. Doing some second thru sixth pulls on some highways ('13 mcs manual) Did not boost past 13psi (I have a defi racer gauge set up) also did not feel any faster at all. Tomorrow morning on my way to work I will hopefully see a difference. Just giving an update for everyone else.
#320
Edit: . . .and I see Cerenkov already made this point. Sorry for cluttering the thread.
#321
5 days and 494 miles after installing the JB+ no cel light on the dash. Do I really need a tool such as the BMS can tool to make sure there are no codes?
I need to take my car into the dealer for warranty brakes.
Is there an adaptation period after removing the JB+?
Then when I put it back on is there another adaptation period?
I need to take my car into the dealer for warranty brakes.
Is there an adaptation period after removing the JB+?
Then when I put it back on is there another adaptation period?
#322
I did not contact Terry yet. I figured I would ask here first before I began to bug him. We shall see if any changes happen on my way home from work, still nothing on my way in this morning. Open highway at 5am is a good way to test haha still 12ish psi. I'm just trying to keep everyone updated just so if this is happening to someone else they know they are not alone.
#323
Have a great day.
Last edited by pidge1114; 09-26-2013 at 05:51 AM.
#324
"but asking over and over again........"
I'm sorry, pidge, but I don't see anywhere else I've asked them about this being for the N14. I even did a search in case I was mistaken. I wouldn't want to be pestering about it as you are implying, but as far as I see, this is the first time I've asked them at all.
But if you need one person to take the flak for your own resolve, I'm here for ya buddy. My skin is thick, I can handle your frustration.
I'm sorry, pidge, but I don't see anywhere else I've asked them about this being for the N14. I even did a search in case I was mistaken. I wouldn't want to be pestering about it as you are implying, but as far as I see, this is the first time I've asked them at all.
But if you need one person to take the flak for your own resolve, I'm here for ya buddy. My skin is thick, I can handle your frustration.
#325
"but asking over and over again........"
I'm sorry, pidge, but I don't see anywhere else I've asked them about this being for the N14. I even did a search in case I was mistaken. I wouldn't want to be pestering about it as you are implying, but as far as I see, this is the first time I've asked them at all.
But if you need one person to take the flak for your own resolve, I'm here for ya buddy. My skin is thick, I can handle your frustration.
I'm sorry, pidge, but I don't see anywhere else I've asked them about this being for the N14. I even did a search in case I was mistaken. I wouldn't want to be pestering about it as you are implying, but as far as I see, this is the first time I've asked them at all.
But if you need one person to take the flak for your own resolve, I'm here for ya buddy. My skin is thick, I can handle your frustration.