Drivetrain Bypass Valve
#1
Bypass Valve
Ive been thinking about a detroit tuned BPV
from what I have read... it seems to be more useful on 02/03 build MCS
I have an 02 build MCS
I have also read that a DTBPV would be only useful if you had YOYOing
I have only about 58k on my 03 I have not experienced YOYO... I think?
i imagine YOYO being pretty noticeable? like a surging or hiccup at a certain rpm
the only thing i notice... is i get a bit of lag when WOT but i think that may be the flat spot everyone speaks of (Im getting my ecu flashed through WAY and his flash supposedly will get rid of it)
i guess my question is if i dont have yoyo now will it come later with mileage?
is it really necessary? I have read differing opinions... and ive read that some people have had issues after installing...
should I get one just in case... (if i find a great deal..)
from what I have read... it seems to be more useful on 02/03 build MCS
I have an 02 build MCS
I have also read that a DTBPV would be only useful if you had YOYOing
I have only about 58k on my 03 I have not experienced YOYO... I think?
i imagine YOYO being pretty noticeable? like a surging or hiccup at a certain rpm
the only thing i notice... is i get a bit of lag when WOT but i think that may be the flat spot everyone speaks of (Im getting my ecu flashed through WAY and his flash supposedly will get rid of it)
i guess my question is if i dont have yoyo now will it come later with mileage?
is it really necessary? I have read differing opinions... and ive read that some people have had issues after installing...
should I get one just in case... (if i find a great deal..)
#2
Wait till after the Way flash, see what you think, after.
Basiclly the DTBV has a stronger spring & has been checked for butterfly allignment to get the best seal as possible, the stiffer spring helps the close speed & timing of the butterfly valve, as well as holding it shut better so that it doesn't flutter in the case of variations in vacuum/boost & air flow @ WOT (which gives you the YoYo, it's caused by the valve fluttering from a weak spring)
Besides the YoYo, the best way to know if you would benefit from one or not is to have a boost gauge & pay attention to it, to see if any of these issues or a reduction or lack of boost, either are there or become apparent down the road.
Most of the issues I remember hearing about had to do with install issues ( loose, missed or damaged vac. lines or connections) or simply people expecting more than what it's really supposed to do.
Basiclly the DTBV has a stronger spring & has been checked for butterfly allignment to get the best seal as possible, the stiffer spring helps the close speed & timing of the butterfly valve, as well as holding it shut better so that it doesn't flutter in the case of variations in vacuum/boost & air flow @ WOT (which gives you the YoYo, it's caused by the valve fluttering from a weak spring)
Besides the YoYo, the best way to know if you would benefit from one or not is to have a boost gauge & pay attention to it, to see if any of these issues or a reduction or lack of boost, either are there or become apparent down the road.
Most of the issues I remember hearing about had to do with install issues ( loose, missed or damaged vac. lines or connections) or simply people expecting more than what it's really supposed to do.
#3
interesting I am using a ultragauge for boost...
I havent seen anything out of the ordinary....(not that I know what to look for)
but im seeing 9-10 psi mid range... 15+ to redline...
actually I am not even sure what I should be seeing with 15% and 2% at sea level i think (bay area, ca)
with yoyoing or weird symptoms... will i see changes in boost... like for example sake... at around 3-4 k WOT 10psi to like 1psi back to 9psi... etc
I havent seen anything out of the ordinary....(not that I know what to look for)
but im seeing 9-10 psi mid range... 15+ to redline...
actually I am not even sure what I should be seeing with 15% and 2% at sea level i think (bay area, ca)
with yoyoing or weird symptoms... will i see changes in boost... like for example sake... at around 3-4 k WOT 10psi to like 1psi back to 9psi... etc
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My 02 MCS has a detroit tuned BPV, plus a bunch more goodies, but it makes the car almost undriveable in traffic, it will snap into boost so damn fast it hurts, I also have a stage 3 clutch and mods that boost hp to mid 230's at altitude, so it could be just the set up, but, i know that with the stock BPV performance gains will be the same, only change it when you are getting into a lot of power, or constant aggressive driving just my 2 cents
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