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Old 08-22-2014, 06:21 PM
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So your saying they are pre gapped to 6mm?
Upon warm start up
 

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So your saying they are pre gapped to 6mm?
Yes, mine were close enough to that. More like .58
 
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I got a P2187 tonight. It won't clear. Not sure where to start looking.... Everything seems to be OK. No other codes combined. I got boost to 16.88 without any issue all according to ScanGauge. I have the new plugs on the table but probably wouldn't matter right now. Stock plugs in it are not very old. I'm going to check IC hoses first for air leak. It was pretty warm today! Anyone have any thoughts? Stage 2 B.
 
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Try switching to the stock map. But it could be MAF sensor or O2 sensor or a vacuum leak. How is your AFR at boost high RPMs?
 
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Originally Posted by MikewithaMini
I got a P2187 tonight. It won't clear. Not sure where to start looking.... Everything seems to be OK. No other codes combined. I got boost to 16.88 without any issue all according to ScanGauge. I have the new plugs on the table but probably wouldn't matter right now. Stock plugs in it are not very old. I'm going to check IC hoses first for air leak. It was pretty warm today! Anyone have any thoughts? Stage 2 B.
From the 5-10 minutes I looked up to see what this code was... came up with bad gas or something else fuel related... fuel pump... fuel leak? The code I believe refers to a lean condition at idle.
 
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:12 AM
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A/F fluctuates at idle. Mostly 13.2, but hits ups to 14.0 momentarily then back to 13.2. Idle is steady both with AC on or off. For me that rules out HPFP or big air leak. I do have a little oil moisture around the cam sensor however. IC pipes seem ok.
 
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Issues resolved! Went to the dealer this morning for alignment check and they were able to clear all the codes and they have not returned. No extra charge even! Car pulls like crazy above 3K! So fun so far!
 
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Some of you may know but not everyone. But Nick updated the new maps to lower coolant temps and delete the cold start! Finally! I hated the cold start in the morning, I always felt bad in my quiet neighborhood.
 
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some of you may know but not everyone. But nick updated the new maps to lower coolant temps and delete the cold start! Finally! I hated the cold start in the morning, i always felt bad in my quiet neighborhood.
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For the autos, there are also changes to the torque management in the DME so that the transmission doesn't complain about the increase in torque and power.
 
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Without going through 27 pages.. (On the app anyway)
Where can I find pricing? I have a 2010 MCS N14.

Thank you.
 
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Without going through 27 pages.. (On the app anyway)
Where can I find pricing? I have a 2010 MCS N14.

Thank you.
Go to www.manicmini.com
And find a location and contact a dealer near you. Ideally it's $500 Stage 1 and $550 Stage 2. But it can vary a little bit throughout the dealers.
 
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Most Recent Manic Tune Pricing
subject to change


stage 1 $500 same price as before
stage 1+$550 new stage
stage 2 $550 same price as before
stage 2+$600 new stage
stage 3 $700
stage 4 $800
 
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Originally Posted by Indimanic
Most Recent Manic Tune Pricing
subject to change


stage 1 $500 same price as before
stage 1+$550 new stage
stage 2 $550 same price as before
stage 2+$600 new stage
stage 3 $700
stage 4 $800
Looks like MINI Dynamics is now an East Coast Dealer. Looks like the best write up I have seen so far on the Stage 1, Stage 1 +PLUS and Stage 2 requirements....if you go thru the checkout process their system asks every question they need to get the correct tune. Pretty impressive from what I have seen....

http://www.minidynamics.com/ECU-Tuni...ems-s/2055.htm
 
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Originally Posted by JCW Jet
Looks like MINI Dynamics is now an East Coast Dealer. Looks like the best write up I have seen so far on the Stage 1, Stage 1 +PLUS and Stage 2 requirements....if you go thru the checkout process their system asks every question they need to get the correct tune. Pretty impressive from what I have seen....

http://www.minidynamics.com/ECU-Tuni...ems-s/2055.htm
Anybody know if the Install charge for $100 is for Drive in only?

And I take it that the the Tuneable options are considered the Stage II plus.

I like the site. Seems straight up except the extra $100 for labor
 
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Not sure why they would be charging a labor charge. Their profit should be built into the cost of the tune.
 
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Originally Posted by wzabrouski
Not sure why they would be charging a labor charge. Their profit should be built into the cost of the tune.
Wait. So I saw earlier that stage 1 is $499.99 on their website. So are they charging an additional $100 over that?
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
Wait. So I saw earlier that stage 1 is $499.99 on their website. So are they charging an additional $100 over that?
I would imagine it's like any part you buy. If you buy an exhaust, the company that sells it to you makes a profit....if you want an expert to install it, you pay an install fee or labor charge. I think i read elsewhere that the EuroCode install price was $105. I'm guessing they also made a substantial investment in the tuning equipment needed to provide bench tuning. I have used these guys for a ton of work on my 2 MINI's and the customer service is incredible and the quality of their work is impeccable. I plan on having them tune my JCW right after Labor Day. Looks like it takes about 3 hrs to install the programs/maps.
 

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Originally Posted by JCW Jet
I think i read elsewhere that the EuroHaus AZ install price was $105.
I assume you are talking about us. We do not charge labor to install Manic tunes.

We do charge shipping on bench flashes but will never charge labor to install a tune.

I'm not sure where you read that but we have never quoted a labor charge for "install of tune" to anyone.

Also the write up of each stage is incorrect. So I'm sure there would be a surprise change in price once they get you ecu and you find out you are not the stage you think you are based on that information.

Secondly install does not take 2-3 hours. Once they files are on hand the actually flashing takes ~1.5 hours for the N18 and 45 minutes for N14.

Also they cannot guarantee they will not have to open your ECU until they know what software is installed in it.
 
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Got my 1.0 jet in today. Still a little hesitant of the 500cc per minute flow.
 
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Originally Posted by wzabrouski
Got my 1.0 jet in today. Still a little hesitant of the 500cc per minute flow.
What's the worst that can happen?
 
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Originally Posted by wzabrouski
Got my 1.0 jet in today. Still a little hesitant of the 500cc per minute flow.
Did you try the .8 and monitor in map c? I would see where you are at. You may have enough fuel at the map c level. I do.
 
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I go through a lot of meth. lol
 
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I take it the autos are surviving?

I maybe getting an auto JCW in the near future for various reasons.


Never driven an auto Mini so I'm not sure if they're finicky.
 
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I take it the autos are surviving?

I maybe getting an auto JCW in the near future for various reasons.


Never driven an auto Mini so I'm not sure if they're finicky.
Good to go. I have been running this tune and a hybrid turbo since May. No hick-ups at all.
 


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