Drivetrain Manic Motorsport brings us N18 owners OBD II Tuning! Solution is finally here!
#951
Key word there is JCW tuning kit. The cone filter is tuning kit. Factory JCW's have normal Cooper S boxes. With a proper high flow filter the stock air box design works fine. 244whp on K&N drop in panel is not too shabby. We have another similar car with NM cone set up but have not gotten to dyno that guy yet. We have a dyno shoot out coming up in December so we will have some numbers to compare very soon including the first Owen hybird turbo in the US.
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#953
There has been no change at all with my tune ... provided you are driving normally. Obviously, once you are laying into the throttle more, you MPG's will go down.
#954
Key word there is JCW tuning kit. The cone filter is tuning kit. Factory JCW's have normal Cooper S boxes. With a proper high flow filter the stock air box design works fine. 244whp on K&N drop in panel is not too shabby. We have another similar car with NM cone set up but have not gotten to dyno that guy yet. We have a dyno shoot out coming up in December so we will have some numbers to compare very soon including the first Owen hybird turbo in the US.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
#956
The JCW tuning kit comes with a new air box lid that includes the round filter. Only tuning kit cars have round filters. All others (s or factory jcw) have flat panels filters. The tuning kit air box will have a JCW logo on it and is the only round filter box.
#958
Owen turbo
I ordered the Owen Developments turbo yesterday and should have it next week. We will be also adding a 3" turboback exhaust setup on the car. Nick is going to be putting together a stage 3 tune for 91 and race fuel for the car. Should be some interesting results. We will keep you guys posted on the results as we are planning to get some dyno numbers on this one after Jerry at Eurotechs installs the turbo and Nick adjusts the tune a bit.
#960
I ordered the Owen Developments turbo yesterday and should have it next week. We will be also adding a 3" turboback exhaust setup on the car. Nick is going to be putting together a stage 3 tune for 91 and race fuel for the car. Should be some interesting results. We will keep you guys posted on the results as we are planning to get some dyno numbers on this one after Jerry at Eurotechs installs the turbo and Nick adjusts the tune a bit.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
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#961
In person and on paper it looks like a winner, but the real world is what counts. Looks to be slightly above $2,000 for snail. I'm interested in the HPFP being able to keep up with out meth. My GP is hitting around 23psi/1.7 Bar and the fuel pump is right at the line. The Owen may produce more HP and TQ with only 19psi. Looking forward to your results! Mario
http://www.jmturbocoopers.com/Mini-C...rade-HPFP.html
#962
Owen turbo
In person and on paper it looks like a winner, but the real world is what counts. Looks to be slightly above $2,000 for snail. I'm interested in the HPFP being able to keep up with out meth. My GP is hitting around 23psi/1.7 Bar and the fuel pump is right at the line. The Owen may produce more HP and TQ with only 19psi. Looking forward to your results! Mario
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#963
JMTC PUmp
Have you looked into this HPFP by JMTC? It says it can get you another 20% fuel flow.
http://www.jmturbocoopers.com/Mini-C...rade-HPFP.html
http://www.jmturbocoopers.com/Mini-C...rade-HPFP.html
I did talk to them about that pump the other day and they have not completed it yet. Still working some of the bugs out they said
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I ordered the Owen Developments turbo yesterday and should have it next week. We will be also adding a 3" turboback exhaust setup on the car. Nick is going to be putting together a stage 3 tune for 91 and race fuel for the car. Should be some interesting results. We will keep you guys posted on the results as we are planning to get some dyno numbers on this one after Jerry at Eurotechs installs the turbo and Nick adjusts the tune a bit.
#965
Was interested in Owens but skeptical being because it was over seas. I don't remember the price but it lead me away from it haha. Manic strongly recommends it. I ended up going with the JMTC E45R K04. Hoping to get a dyno for you guys soon. Can't go wrong with Owen. Nick knows the turbo very well.
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Was interested in Owens but skeptical being because it was over seas. I don't remember the price but it lead me away from it haha. Manic strongly recommends it. I ended up going with the JMTC E45R K04. Hoping to get a dyno for you guys soon. Can't go wrong with Owen. Nick knows the turbo very well.
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#971
I just finished getting the car flashed from G3 Automotive Solutions in Raleigh, NC. They set me up with stage 2+. Currently I have it on map A and will be doing tons of logging over the next few weeks. I'm not planning on switching to map B until I get the high flow cat installed, which I'll be ordering here shortly.
I've ordered the recommended spark plugs (NGK 1422) from EurotechAZ which should be here tomorrow. Another group of great guys BTW.
My initial impressions are great. I actually chirped the tires shifting into 2nd gear and this is an automatic transmission mind you. Map A was boosting to 18.2 psi while the stock map was at 12.4 psi. Another thing that I really like is the throttle remap to a more linear response, no more peak boost at 1/4 pedal travel.![Thumbs Up](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/thumb-up.gif)
For those that are in or near Raleigh, you should really consider this remap. Give the guys at G3 a call they are awesome to work with. Their contact info is on the Manic website.
I've ordered the recommended spark plugs (NGK 1422) from EurotechAZ which should be here tomorrow. Another group of great guys BTW.
My initial impressions are great. I actually chirped the tires shifting into 2nd gear and this is an automatic transmission mind you. Map A was boosting to 18.2 psi while the stock map was at 12.4 psi. Another thing that I really like is the throttle remap to a more linear response, no more peak boost at 1/4 pedal travel.
![Thumbs Up](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/thumb-up.gif)
For those that are in or near Raleigh, you should really consider this remap. Give the guys at G3 a call they are awesome to work with. Their contact info is on the Manic website.
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I just finished getting the car flashed from G3 Automotive Solutions in Raleigh, NC. They set me up with stage 2+. Currently I have it on map A and will be doing tons of logging over the next few weeks. I'm not planning on switching to map B until I get the high flow cat installed, which I'll be ordering here shortly.
I've ordered the recommended spark plugs (NGK 1422) from EurotechAZ which should be here tomorrow. Another group of great guys BTW.
My initial impressions are great. I actually chirped the tires shifting into 2nd gear and this is an automatic transmission mind you. Map A was boosting to 18.2 psi while the stock map was at 12.4 psi. Another thing that I really like is the throttle remap to a more linear response, no more peak boost at 1/4 pedal travel.![Thumbs Up](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/thumb-up.gif)
For those that are in or near Raleigh, you should really consider this remap. Give the guys at G3 a call they are awesome to work with. Their contact info is on the Manic website.
I've ordered the recommended spark plugs (NGK 1422) from EurotechAZ which should be here tomorrow. Another group of great guys BTW.
My initial impressions are great. I actually chirped the tires shifting into 2nd gear and this is an automatic transmission mind you. Map A was boosting to 18.2 psi while the stock map was at 12.4 psi. Another thing that I really like is the throttle remap to a more linear response, no more peak boost at 1/4 pedal travel.
![Thumbs Up](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/thumb-up.gif)
For those that are in or near Raleigh, you should really consider this remap. Give the guys at G3 a call they are awesome to work with. Their contact info is on the Manic website.
Don't wait too long on that High Flow cat, Map B and C are on a whole other level.😮
Good times👍
#974
#975
A question for those that have changed to the colder plugs - (NGK1422 - ILKR8E6).
The original plugs use the special thin wall 14mm 12pt socket which I have BUT the new plugs are the standard 5/8" and the socket is too big to fit down into the well.
I can always lathe it down a bit when I get to work on Monday. But was wondering if there is a special socket that I can buy?
The original plugs use the special thin wall 14mm 12pt socket which I have BUT the new plugs are the standard 5/8" and the socket is too big to fit down into the well.
I can always lathe it down a bit when I get to work on Monday. But was wondering if there is a special socket that I can buy?