Drivetrain Manic Motorsport brings us N18 owners OBD II Tuning! Solution is finally here!
#1901
#1902
OK I was told I am getting a custom stage 2 to allow my stock cat. I have everything but a DP. No meth and stock turbo. At first was getting a stage 2 locked to map B but Manic Tuner came back and said he requested a tune to allow a cat on stage 2 map C.
SO this could be sweet for those wanting to stay "legal" and get the most.
SO this could be sweet for those wanting to stay "legal" and get the most.
Last edited by rckrzy1; 07-17-2015 at 08:43 AM.
#1903
#1904
I'll do some before and after checks like I did when I installed the muffler, it sits were the 2nd cat and resonator was.
I just got mine hot as I could and 1384F was max and ambient is 97F .
Last edited by rckrzy1; 07-17-2015 at 10:47 AM.
#1905
That is one thing my Aero Turbine muffler did , it dropped temps almost 200F , and it's one of things they claim about the muffler which is designed to scavenge heat so that could be a valuable tool .
I'll do some before and after checks like I did when I installed the muffler, it sits were the 2nd cat and resonator was.
I just got mine hot as I could and 1384F was max and ambient is 97F .
I'll do some before and after checks like I did when I installed the muffler, it sits were the 2nd cat and resonator was.
I just got mine hot as I could and 1384F was max and ambient is 97F .
#1906
#1907
Has anyone with a Manic Tune experience rich condition only under WOT?
My A/F drops to 10.9 under WOT and cannot figure what it can be. Nick at Manic does not have an explanation. I was vent to atmosphere and thinking those gases were needed but still same issue. Its a 3+ with all the mods and not with meth. No vacuum or boost leaks. All sensors are new; WOT goes closed loop so only MAPs are calibrating fuel.
My A/F drops to 10.9 under WOT and cannot figure what it can be. Nick at Manic does not have an explanation. I was vent to atmosphere and thinking those gases were needed but still same issue. Its a 3+ with all the mods and not with meth. No vacuum or boost leaks. All sensors are new; WOT goes closed loop so only MAPs are calibrating fuel.
#1908
WOW is all I can say. I got the manic stage 1 , I have plenty of mods for stage 1 plus but manic said it was more for JCW.
SO to have an apples to apples test I ran DC on way to get tune, it's about 100F today, with JB+ I had a peak of 17# with holding of 16# and 238HP 232# TQ .
On drive home in map C I had sustained 20# boost with a peak of 22 273HP 322# TQ.
SO since I measured with same methods that says quite some gains, for sure can feel it.
SO to have an apples to apples test I ran DC on way to get tune, it's about 100F today, with JB+ I had a peak of 17# with holding of 16# and 238HP 232# TQ .
On drive home in map C I had sustained 20# boost with a peak of 22 273HP 322# TQ.
SO since I measured with same methods that says quite some gains, for sure can feel it.
Last edited by rckrzy1; 07-18-2015 at 02:37 PM.
#1909
Manic Motorsport brings us N18 owners OBD II Tuning! Solution is finally here!
Originally Posted by Indimanic
Has anyone with a Manic Tune experience rich condition only under WOT?
My A/F drops to 10.9 under WOT and cannot figure what it can be. Nick at Manic does not have an explanation. I was vent to atmosphere and thinking those gases were needed but still same issue. Its a 3+ with all the mods and not with meth. No vacuum or boost leaks. All sensors are new; WOT goes closed loop so only MAPs are calibrating fuel.
My A/F drops to 10.9 under WOT and cannot figure what it can be. Nick at Manic does not have an explanation. I was vent to atmosphere and thinking those gases were needed but still same issue. Its a 3+ with all the mods and not with meth. No vacuum or boost leaks. All sensors are new; WOT goes closed loop so only MAPs are calibrating fuel.
#1910
My A/F drops to 10.9 immediately upon WOT.
I changed a few things but in the process of getting smog so CAT is on and last monitor finally ran tonight. I took like 150 mile for the O2 sensor to run. Not believing having A/C and defroster on made a diff I finally tried it with them on and.....the monitor ran right away.
BTW, the monitor ran while having a pending fault for fuel trim anyway. I read that it would not run but it did so that myth might be dispelled.
I changed a few things but in the process of getting smog so CAT is on and last monitor finally ran tonight. I took like 150 mile for the O2 sensor to run. Not believing having A/C and defroster on made a diff I finally tried it with them on and.....the monitor ran right away.
BTW, the monitor ran while having a pending fault for fuel trim anyway. I read that it would not run but it did so that myth might be dispelled.
#1911
#1912
Interesting. I hear 12.1 to 12.5 is desireable for WOT is your tune designed for meth?
Does the power seem to flatten under WOT or does it still pull strong and linear under WOT.
With mine, I feel a drop in power and that overly "rich" sensation under WOT and therefore resist "flooring" it for best performance.
It would be nice to get Nick from Manic to chime in here. I feel a target A/F should be 13.1 before meth is introduced. I decided to revert to passing crankcase gases back into intake looking for more "air" and when I get my setup back together i'll report back.
Does the power seem to flatten under WOT or does it still pull strong and linear under WOT.
With mine, I feel a drop in power and that overly "rich" sensation under WOT and therefore resist "flooring" it for best performance.
It would be nice to get Nick from Manic to chime in here. I feel a target A/F should be 13.1 before meth is introduced. I decided to revert to passing crankcase gases back into intake looking for more "air" and when I get my setup back together i'll report back.
#1913
#1915
Interesting. I hear 12.1 to 12.5 is desireable for WOT is your tune designed for meth?
Does the power seem to flatten under WOT or does it still pull strong and linear under WOT.
With mine, I feel a drop in power and that overly "rich" sensation under WOT and therefore resist "flooring" it for best performance.
It would be nice to get Nick from Manic to chime in here. I feel a target A/F should be 13.1 before meth is introduced. I decided to revert to passing crankcase gases back into intake looking for more "air" and when I get my setup back together i'll report back.
Does the power seem to flatten under WOT or does it still pull strong and linear under WOT.
With mine, I feel a drop in power and that overly "rich" sensation under WOT and therefore resist "flooring" it for best performance.
It would be nice to get Nick from Manic to chime in here. I feel a target A/F should be 13.1 before meth is introduced. I decided to revert to passing crankcase gases back into intake looking for more "air" and when I get my setup back together i'll report back.
I've heard that Manic tends to run the tunes on the rich side in an effort to protect the motors. When using the JB+ my AFR was in the 12.4 range.
The power feels good until the higher rpms when it does taper off. It definitely never feels boggy.
#1920
Interesting. I hear 12.1 to 12.5 is desireable for WOT is your tune designed for meth?
Does the power seem to flatten under WOT or does it still pull strong and linear under WOT.
With mine, I feel a drop in power and that overly "rich" sensation under WOT and therefore resist "flooring" it for best performance.
It would be nice to get Nick from Manic to chime in here. I feel a target A/F should be 13.1 before meth is introduced. I decided to revert to passing crankcase gases back into intake looking for more "air" and when I get my setup back together i'll report back.
Does the power seem to flatten under WOT or does it still pull strong and linear under WOT.
With mine, I feel a drop in power and that overly "rich" sensation under WOT and therefore resist "flooring" it for best performance.
It would be nice to get Nick from Manic to chime in here. I feel a target A/F should be 13.1 before meth is introduced. I decided to revert to passing crankcase gases back into intake looking for more "air" and when I get my setup back together i'll report back.
#1921
#1922
Yeah MiniVinnie, that's b/c it's way too rich WOT.
Totah I have Dash Command and a wideband A/F gauge
I ran 10.9 WOT but I blocked off my vent to atmosphere CCV system and achieved 11.4 WOT. My car is so frankensteined now I cannot really gather proper data. Under heavy load but not WOT I get a nice 13.5 or so.
I just bolted up the JMTC E45R, installed meth kit and wen to stage 3+ level C defcon 4 self destruct mode. Pulls like hell but for how long? I hear about all these motors burning pistons but its not the motors fault. I have 105k and having beating it for the last 20k incl track time.
Totah I have Dash Command and a wideband A/F gauge
I ran 10.9 WOT but I blocked off my vent to atmosphere CCV system and achieved 11.4 WOT. My car is so frankensteined now I cannot really gather proper data. Under heavy load but not WOT I get a nice 13.5 or so.
I just bolted up the JMTC E45R, installed meth kit and wen to stage 3+ level C defcon 4 self destruct mode. Pulls like hell but for how long? I hear about all these motors burning pistons but its not the motors fault. I have 105k and having beating it for the last 20k incl track time.
#1923
#1924
Yes; too fat equals loss of power. You feel that yourself under WOT. Not sure how you would address that issue. I tried with Nick at Manic but to no avail. I now have an over boost issue getting up to 29psi after the E45 install. I tried to adjust the wastegate arm but still over boosts.
Between the two I never get close to WOT WTF.lol
Between the two I never get close to WOT WTF.lol