Drivetrain Diverter valve (Bypass Valve) and Engine Power Reduced (Limp Mode)
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Diverter valve (Bypass Valve) and Engine Power Reduced (Limp Mode)
Hi everyone. I wanted to make a post regarding a Limp mode light that came on recently in hope it may help troubleshoot another individuals who has similar conditions.
I have a 2007 R56 Mini Cooper S Turbo. I installed a OPL (ebay) Intercooler and was smashing on the throttle right after I installed it on the highway.
Diaphram unit from Diverter Valve destroyed
Another view of the damaged diaphram.
At high boost ( Revving high 2nd-3rd gear) the light came on and immediately had reduced engine power....BUT only for a short bit power appeared to return to normal but the light remained ON.
After further inspection, I found the boost blew out diaphram on the diverter valve.
It is my suspicion that the new intercooler having a larger volume was storing up a higher volume of boost pressure and thus upon attempt to divert boost it blew it out.
I have a 2007 R56 Mini Cooper S Turbo. I installed a OPL (ebay) Intercooler and was smashing on the throttle right after I installed it on the highway.
Diaphram unit from Diverter Valve destroyed
Another view of the damaged diaphram.
At high boost ( Revving high 2nd-3rd gear) the light came on and immediately had reduced engine power....BUT only for a short bit power appeared to return to normal but the light remained ON.
After further inspection, I found the boost blew out diaphram on the diverter valve.
It is my suspicion that the new intercooler having a larger volume was storing up a higher volume of boost pressure and thus upon attempt to divert boost it blew it out.
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Charliefowle03 (04-02-2020)
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It was probably on its way out already, then when you started beating on it with the new intercooler, it let go.
This is the newer version:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-pierburg...658636606~pie/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/11658636606/
Or, you could get an upgrade:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turbosma...0223-1293~tsm/
This is the newer version:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-pierburg...658636606~pie/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/11658636606/
Or, you could get an upgrade:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turbosma...0223-1293~tsm/
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+1^^ njaremka
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Yea, the adapters are simple. I like the forge ones as they are made very well. Those other ones i have no clue if they function the same or are good or what spring they run. Who knows? I run a forge BOV upgraded unit and its made very well and no issues. The forge stuff is quality .
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Charliefowle03 (04-02-2020)
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Yes. I understand. Question... so the adapter just creates more space or increases volume between... idk.. so what's it do?
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The adapter is meant to basically turn a diverter valve into an atmospheric blow off valve. Instead or recirculating the excess boost back into the intake, it vents to the atmosphere. They sound really neat, but it’s possible it could throw a CEL too. I’m not sure if they meter the airflow enough for that or not, Ive been told that they both work fine and throw a CEL. I guess you just have to see what happens.
If the valve you purchased is an atmospheric blow-off valve, there’s no point in using the plate at all since they sort of achieve the same purpose.
that one, like the Forge is vacuum actuated, so you will need to run the lines for it, as the factory DV is actuated by the ECU. The GFB DV+ uses the factory solenoid but replaces all the plastic bits that broke on yours and the piston with metal parts.
The aftermarket diverters and BOV’s usually have a few different spring options to fine tune it’s operation with your boost levels. If you are not tuned, the normal spring should be fine
If the valve you purchased is an atmospheric blow-off valve, there’s no point in using the plate at all since they sort of achieve the same purpose.
that one, like the Forge is vacuum actuated, so you will need to run the lines for it, as the factory DV is actuated by the ECU. The GFB DV+ uses the factory solenoid but replaces all the plastic bits that broke on yours and the piston with metal parts.
The aftermarket diverters and BOV’s usually have a few different spring options to fine tune it’s operation with your boost levels. If you are not tuned, the normal spring should be fine
Last edited by MrGrumpy; 04-02-2020 at 09:34 AM.
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Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
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yeah you dont need both, but i have the spacer like the one that you have in the bottom pics, i paid 9 bucks shipped not 18. No CEL with the spacer, updated DV, and Alta boost spring. Got to drive into work today and was hitting 15.5 lbs of boost no issue and triple digits tend to sneak up real quick
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yeah you dont need both, but i have the spacer like the one that you have in the bottom pics, i paid 9 bucks shipped not 18. No CEL with the spacer, updated DV, and Alta boost spring. Got to drive into work today and was hitting 15.5 lbs of boost no issue and triple digits tend to sneak up real quick
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For throttle response and quick spool up Im sure its a combo of the spring and DV, turbo muffler delete, g+ intercooler, and forge noise maker delete. The adapter is just purely for the psst sound when coming out of boost.
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Charliefowle03 (04-02-2020)
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When you say Diverter Valve how does a blow off valve differ?
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The diverter valve controls the release of boost when you let off the throttle faster than it can be controlled by the wastegate. (Picture going full throttle, then immediately lifting you foot fast off the throttle pedal) In this case, the diverter valve opens, and any boost built by the turbo is either recirculated back to the intake, or vented out to the air.
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