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Originally Posted by discodan
so am i understanding this correctly? let's just say ~$450 for the intake manifold, and both intercooler connections, all ported and coated inside and out? sounds like a good deal to me, where do i sign up? again great job Dan! how's the header with cat coming along? keep up the good work and keep us posted.
, $450. is for the intake manifold only.
 
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Do you have and data that could compare this manifold to the Webb Motorsports manifold?
 
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Originally Posted by MiniPilo
Here is an estimate price list.

For the items ported without the coatings, it will be 285

For them coated, it will be about 410-440 (not sure yet)

Also included are the items below.
Also INCLUDED are the items below. are you sure sfjames?
 
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Also INCLUDED are the items below. are you sure sfjames?
was not sure.
Everything together would be worth it IMO. I would not want anything coated though, just ported.

$285. for all that seems almost to good to be true. I want it.
 
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Originally Posted by sfjames2
was not sure.
Everything together would be worth it IMO. I would not want anything coated though, just ported.

$285. for all that seems almost to good to be true. I want it.
Yes, The prices coated include all items. I do not have any data between our unit, and Webb Motorsports. I just know that DPR has consistantly been on the top of every thing that he has done for us, and this is no exception.

I am trying to get all the data and testing, but must do some thing prior to installing. I also need to test the new injectors I have as well. lots of things, not enought time.. now with 12+ of snow coming... who knows when I can get some data. I want a day above freezing before doing any temp logging.

Core returns will be mandatory on these items though.
 

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Does this unit sit any taller than the stock or is it the same size?
 
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Does this unit sit any taller than the stock or is it the same size?
Injector? It is the exact same height. I'll take pictures if I can find my camera..
 
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ya sorry i wasnt clear
 
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ya sorry i wasnt clear
No prob... I'm getting better at mind reading :-p j/k
 
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when will we see dyno no's? just to see how much we are talking about...
I know its going to improve the flow but by how much and ofcourse it comes down to comparing it to the competition

thx
 
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when will we see dyno no's? just to see how much we are talking about...
I know its going to improve the flow but by how much and ofcourse it comes down to comparing it to the competition

thx
I plan to do it as soon as I can. Just need to get a good time for dyno. So that I can get as much done as possible.
 
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Dan,
do you dyno @ Helix with Eric? i'm sure certain people on NAM would love to know Helix was involved with this project in some way and they can also get Eric's opinion then on the products as well if he would be so gracious to do so.
 
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do you dyno @ Helix with Eric? i'm sure certain people on NAM would love to know Helix was involved with this project in some way and they can also get Eric's opinion then on the products as well if he would be so gracious to do so.
It's possible they haven't dyno'd yet because last I heard they were having problems with the calibration of their dyno......maybe Helix can chime in and let us know the status? thanks in advance
 
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Originally Posted by discodan
Dan,
do you dyno @ Helix with Eric? i'm sure certain people on NAM would love to know Helix was involved with this project in some way and they can also get Eric's opinion then on the products as well if he would be so gracious to do so.
I have found a local dyno shop that runs an AWD Mustang Dynometer that I will be running my testing on. It is just no effective for to run down to Helix (2-3 hour drive) for dyno runs on multiple days for this type of testing that I want.
 
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here's a suggestion:

dyno your car in its present config at Helix. then dyno it same config on your local dyno. then we can compare your local dyno to Helix' results

then change out parts and dyno locally.
 
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Originally Posted by jlm
here's a suggestion:

dyno your car in its present config at Helix. then dyno it same config on your local dyno. then we can compare your local dyno to Helix' results

then change out parts and dyno locally.
I already have a helix baseline., but thanks for the suggestion.
 
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Diablito I got a few Q's for you...
what are your 0-100kmph times? Do you have any videos of you in action or are planning to?

the only guy on the forum who is in the tss tss business.. who else should I ask? a vendor


Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
It's possible they haven't dyno'd yet because last I heard they were having problems with the calibration of their dyno......maybe Helix can chime in and let us know the status? thanks in advance
 
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Originally Posted by uae mini
Diablito I got a few Q's for you...
what are your 0-100kmph times? Do you have any videos of you in action or are planning to?

the only guy on the forum who is in the tss tss business.. who else should I ask? a vendor
there is a video of the car on the twincharged thread from inside the car

there will be video soon.... and I mean soon that might answer all your questions. btw.... what is tss? If you want to pm I will answer all your questions.
 
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so Dan what is your baseline at your local shop compared to Helix's?
 
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Originally Posted by discodan
so Dan what is your baseline at your local shop compared to Helix's?
Numbers will be released when finalized.
 

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Originally Posted by MiniPilo
Numbers will be released when finalised.
Please call me asap... need to talk to you about something.... thanks
 
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The more retained heat in the exhaust the better..

If you read between the lines in one of the above quotes, one of the turbo tuners doesn't coat the header to protect the TURBO!

Stainless is nice, but no matter how "fast" the gas gets out of the pipe, if it's hot on the inside, it gets hot on the outside.... So coating the headers is still the way to go.

Interesting about the intakes.... There are lots of EFI manifold adaptors that are sold as "thermal isolators" and do work. But insulating the gas path after a compressor is counter-intuitive, to say the least!

Matt

Hay JLM, what's the third bung for? Data logging with a wide band?
 
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yep; and reading A/F while tuning the Apexi.
 
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Originally Posted by MiniPilo
Here is an estimate price list.

For the items ported without the coatings, it will be 285

For them coated, it will be about 410-440 (not sure yet)

Also included are the items below.
MiniPilo, would you consider some sort of group buy price for NAM members (for a limited time) once you open sales? It might provide an early jump to sales, and give us a little break on price as well.

Anxiously awaiting your test results!
 
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Originally Posted by 62Lincoln
MiniPilo, would you consider some sort of group buy price for NAM members (for a limited time) once you open sales? It might provide an early jump to sales, and give us a little break on price as well.

Anxiously awaiting your test results!
We can look into it. Though this item can not be mas produced as it requires stock parts to be modified. We plan to have several kits ready to go when we are done, but again, not group buy quantities.
 


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