Drivetrain OBX-Racing Header Dyno Results!
#526
Top Heat shield
All parts are Stainless Steel except some washers I stacked on either side of the springs.
Here are the parts laid out.
#528
Update....
Hi all, I'm going into my car and thought I'd post some stuff about the OBX...
In another thread, on of the other headers covered some of the exhaust port on a Webb head. While this photo is from a stock head, you can see that the ports are well centered in the gasket, and that there's lot of room for size increase in the exhaust port.
The other two cyliders look the same.
One other thing. I could see that there was some leakage starting at two of the ports, and when I took the bolts out, they were pretty loose. Sometime when you feel ambitious, take out the heat shield and snug them up.
Also, I was gettingn some surface degradation on the pipes. I'll post photos later when I yank it out.
Matt
In another thread, on of the other headers covered some of the exhaust port on a Webb head. While this photo is from a stock head, you can see that the ports are well centered in the gasket, and that there's lot of room for size increase in the exhaust port.
The other two cyliders look the same.
One other thing. I could see that there was some leakage starting at two of the ports, and when I took the bolts out, they were pretty loose. Sometime when you feel ambitious, take out the heat shield and snug them up.
Also, I was gettingn some surface degradation on the pipes. I'll post photos later when I yank it out.
Matt
#533
Thanks for all the info folks.
I want to make a system with the OBX that has a bolt in "test pipe" and a bolt in STOCK cat.
If I get the OBX it will come with 1 ball flange and 1 bolt flange
This will work for one of my options,
but I still need 1 more BALL FLANGE and use the BOLT FLANGE on the stock cat
Am I correct ? and where can I get my needed parts ?
Thanks for any info.
I want to make a system with the OBX that has a bolt in "test pipe" and a bolt in STOCK cat.
If I get the OBX it will come with 1 ball flange and 1 bolt flange
This will work for one of my options,
but I still need 1 more BALL FLANGE and use the BOLT FLANGE on the stock cat
Am I correct ? and where can I get my needed parts ?
Thanks for any info.
#534
You may have to use your own resources here
Thanks for all the info folks.
I want to make a system with the OBX that has a bolt in "test pipe" and a bolt in STOCK cat.
If I get the OBX it will come with 1 ball flange and 1 bolt flange
This will work for one of my options,
but I still need 1 more BALL FLANGE and use the BOLT FLANGE on the stock cat
Am I correct ? and where can I get my needed parts ?
Thanks for any info.
I want to make a system with the OBX that has a bolt in "test pipe" and a bolt in STOCK cat.
If I get the OBX it will come with 1 ball flange and 1 bolt flange
This will work for one of my options,
but I still need 1 more BALL FLANGE and use the BOLT FLANGE on the stock cat
Am I correct ? and where can I get my needed parts ?
Thanks for any info.
You could try to get one from an OBX vendor but I don’t think anyone has been able to acquire even a replacement gasket.
#535
#536
HMMMM
Thanks
I am now concidering using my "refirbished" Mini Mania header with the new and improved CAT. They sent me this as I already have the MM header but have metlted the CAT, They have sent me a header with what looks like a HP CAT (not stock and not the same one as the original).
I may modify, use welded flanges and have 3 choices. My stock CAT (good to keep for Cal tests) The HP ??? cat on the unit now & a "test pipe" to track with.
I figure why not I now need to find the flanges and do some measuring .. and welding
Thanks
I am now concidering using my "refirbished" Mini Mania header with the new and improved CAT. They sent me this as I already have the MM header but have metlted the CAT, They have sent me a header with what looks like a HP CAT (not stock and not the same one as the original).
I may modify, use welded flanges and have 3 choices. My stock CAT (good to keep for Cal tests) The HP ??? cat on the unit now & a "test pipe" to track with.
I figure why not I now need to find the flanges and do some measuring .. and welding
#537
Somebody posted
I have looked and looked but can't find that post.
Would someone please post that up again and help Galaxie500 out.
Thanks, norm
#538
Hi all,
I'm interested in the OBX header for my 2004 MINI ONE CVT but I have some question hope all the OBX expert/owner can help me out
1. My engine already has a plastic cover (refer to photo) which covered the OEM header. Aft I install the OBX header, that plastic cover can use back?
2. Does that plastic cover sufficient to reduce heat? Or coating + plastic cover?
3. If I use a flex bellow (sorry, not sure the name is correct or not but you can refer the photo ) to join/weld in between the OBX header and OEM Cat (ie: OBX header -- weld --> flex bellow -- weld --> OEM Cat) will it be better than using the OBX supplied dougnut gaskets, etc ??
4. If I do that, I dont have to use the spring screw, etc?
Thanks a million.
I'm interested in the OBX header for my 2004 MINI ONE CVT but I have some question hope all the OBX expert/owner can help me out
1. My engine already has a plastic cover (refer to photo) which covered the OEM header. Aft I install the OBX header, that plastic cover can use back?
2. Does that plastic cover sufficient to reduce heat? Or coating + plastic cover?
3. If I use a flex bellow (sorry, not sure the name is correct or not but you can refer the photo ) to join/weld in between the OBX header and OEM Cat (ie: OBX header -- weld --> flex bellow -- weld --> OEM Cat) will it be better than using the OBX supplied dougnut gaskets, etc ??
4. If I do that, I dont have to use the spring screw, etc?
Thanks a million.
Last edited by vodka; 02-23-2011 at 10:35 PM.
#539
Hi all,
I'm interested in the OBX header for my 2004 MINI ONE CVT but I have some question hope all the OBX expert/owner can help me out
1. My engine already has a plastic cover (refer to photo) which covered the OEM header. Aft I install the OBX header, that plastic cover can use back?
2. Does that plastic cover sufficient to reduce heat? Or coating + plastic cover?
3. If I use a flex bellow (sorry, not sure the name is correct or not but you can refer the photo ) to join/weld in between the OBX header and OEM Cat (ie: OBX header -- weld --> flex bellow -- weld --> OEM Cat) will it be better than using the OBX supplied dougnut gaskets, etc ??
4. If I do that, I dont have to use the spring screw, etc?
Thanks a million.
I'm interested in the OBX header for my 2004 MINI ONE CVT but I have some question hope all the OBX expert/owner can help me out
1. My engine already has a plastic cover (refer to photo) which covered the OEM header. Aft I install the OBX header, that plastic cover can use back?
2. Does that plastic cover sufficient to reduce heat? Or coating + plastic cover?
3. If I use a flex bellow (sorry, not sure the name is correct or not but you can refer the photo ) to join/weld in between the OBX header and OEM Cat (ie: OBX header -- weld --> flex bellow -- weld --> OEM Cat) will it be better than using the OBX supplied dougnut gaskets, etc ??
4. If I do that, I dont have to use the spring screw, etc?
Thanks a million.
2) I was getting more heat with the OBX, but the heat shields on the S are metal, so it wasn't an issue.
3) I don't know if it will be better, but it would eliminate the gasket. Many have run the gasket for many, many miles (me amoung them) with little or no issue. I finally lost one when I lost the nuts (I hadn't double nutted when I first put it in). But that took about 3 year!
4) Correct. All that would go away. You also may find that because of the length of the flex joint, you have to cut the header a bit to make it the same overall lenght as the stocker.
Matt
#540
Just a note here vodka, the picture you provided is of the intake manifold not the header.
If you want to know what works for a OBX header checkout my gallery pictures.
While I'm at it I'll post a source for replacement gasket that should work.
http://www.hotseatperformance.com/ps...2669&CATID=249
If you want to know what works for a OBX header checkout my gallery pictures.
While I'm at it I'll post a source for replacement gasket that should work.
http://www.hotseatperformance.com/ps...2669&CATID=249
#541
3. If I use a flex bellow (sorry, not sure the name is correct or not but you can refer the photo ) to join/weld in between the OBX header and OEM Cat (ie: OBX header -- weld --> flex bellow -- weld --> OEM Cat) will it be better than using the OBX supplied dougnut gaskets, etc ??
1) All different flex joint types have failed some NAM members - the one you picture, the obx donut ect........
2) The OBX donut works just fine.
I would go with the donut - if you have a problem swap out BUT if your like me (and many others) - my obx donut has seen over 10,000 w/ no problem. In other words if it broke don't fix it.
#544
#546
Just installed my OBX to my 04 MINI ONE CVT, can feel the different, the car is more smoother and faster... so far I'm happy with it :D .I got some aft install question to ask, hope someone can answer them
1. When I accelerate, my butt can feel the vibration underneath the car - the vibration shd come from OEM CAT + OBX header area - what do you think? normal? will it cause any problem?
2. Does the OEM header is ceramic/powder coated?
3. I didnt coat my header, it shd be ok right?
Thanks again
1. When I accelerate, my butt can feel the vibration underneath the car - the vibration shd come from OEM CAT + OBX header area - what do you think? normal? will it cause any problem?
2. Does the OEM header is ceramic/powder coated?
3. I didnt coat my header, it shd be ok right?
Thanks again
#547
I think...
Just installed my OBX to my 04 MINI ONE CVT, can feel the different, the car is more smoother and faster... so far I'm happy with it :D .I got some aft install question to ask, hope someone can answer them
1. When I accelerate, my butt can feel the vibration underneath the car - the vibration shd come from OEM CAT + OBX header area - what do you think? normal? will it cause any problem?
2. Does the OEM header is ceramic/powder coated?
3. I didnt coat my header, it shd be ok right?
Thanks again
1. When I accelerate, my butt can feel the vibration underneath the car - the vibration shd come from OEM CAT + OBX header area - what do you think? normal? will it cause any problem?
2. Does the OEM header is ceramic/powder coated?
3. I didnt coat my header, it shd be ok right?
Thanks again
2) Nope. Don't think so....
3) Yep. But the surface may get some rust if the header gets real hot (as our cars tend to do because of how rich they run). It cooks the Ni out of the stainless and it will loose it's shine. I also noticed a bit more cabin heat. My next header is coated.
Hope that helps,
Matt
#548
1)If it's just louder, that's normal. If it's a rattle, something is bumping a heat shield.
2) Nope. Don't think so....
3) Yep. But the surface may get some rust if the header gets real hot (as our cars tend to do because of how rich they run). It cooks the Ni out of the stainless and it will loose it's shine. I also noticed a bit more cabin heat. My next header is coated.
Hope that helps,
Matt
2) Nope. Don't think so....
3) Yep. But the surface may get some rust if the header gets real hot (as our cars tend to do because of how rich they run). It cooks the Ni out of the stainless and it will loose it's shine. I also noticed a bit more cabin heat. My next header is coated.
Hope that helps,
Matt
#549
OBX gasket replacement
Here is a replacement gasket that should work.
http://www.hotseatperformance.com/ps...2669&CATID=249
Posting this again so it doesn't get lost again.
Here is a replacement gasket that should work.
http://www.hotseatperformance.com/ps...2669&CATID=249
Posting this again so it doesn't get lost again.
Last edited by norm03s; 09-23-2007 at 12:48 PM.
#550
wow what a long thread to read lol
i just ordered my obx header and would like to know if any warning lights would go off if i went without the cat ? where i live we have no testing stations
this may be a stupid question .... why not go without the dohnut and weld the pipe straight to the header ? i hnow the engine moves etc , but the little movement in the header to dohnut and existing pipe looks to be very little.
i just ordered my obx header and would like to know if any warning lights would go off if i went without the cat ? where i live we have no testing stations
this may be a stupid question .... why not go without the dohnut and weld the pipe straight to the header ? i hnow the engine moves etc , but the little movement in the header to dohnut and existing pipe looks to be very little.