Drivetrain Official ALTA Q&A thread!
#176
Andy is right, just tee it together. Since we discovered this problem we only got to visualy see this on the car. We didn't have the luxury to take this apart. If you can measure the ID of the hose before it turns into plastic, we will send you the tee. This part will be included with the newer intakes, but we just need to find out what size to supply.
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#180
Sorry, I just got everything back together when I came in and read your message. I did take a few pictures though. I don't know if they are useful. The I.D. of the vent tube coming from the OEM hose is 11.5 mm. Here are a few pics:
I'd love to get the proper tee. Let me know if this helps.
Steve
I'd love to get the proper tee. Let me know if this helps.
Steve
#181
aokdoug,
That is good info since 99% of the people that buy the pulley use the stock BMW part. I know that the UR crank pulley is supposed to heated for install, which is why i assume you did that. During our initial instruction writing, we contacted Mini, and they say to simpley bolt it onto the nose of the crank. No heating at all! I am wondering if anyone has done this yet? I am not saying heating is bad at all, but not every shop has an oven
supergimp,
Thanks for the help, the ID of the plastic fitting is ok, but i thought it turned into a rubber hose about 2" back. I could be completely wrong, i just remember seeing it eventually turn into a hard plastic line. And somewhere between that connector and the hard line was a rubber hose. I most likely am making it up because that plastic connector could be the plastic line. Either way, we can supply a small peice of hose and tee to make this work.
Thanks again for you quick help!
That is good info since 99% of the people that buy the pulley use the stock BMW part. I know that the UR crank pulley is supposed to heated for install, which is why i assume you did that. During our initial instruction writing, we contacted Mini, and they say to simpley bolt it onto the nose of the crank. No heating at all! I am wondering if anyone has done this yet? I am not saying heating is bad at all, but not every shop has an oven
supergimp,
Thanks for the help, the ID of the plastic fitting is ok, but i thought it turned into a rubber hose about 2" back. I could be completely wrong, i just remember seeing it eventually turn into a hard plastic line. And somewhere between that connector and the hard line was a rubber hose. I most likely am making it up because that plastic connector could be the plastic line. Either way, we can supply a small peice of hose and tee to make this work.
Thanks again for you quick help!
#182
It looks to me that the two fittings look very similar to this. Plastic fittings that fit into molded tubes on the OEM hose. The fitting shown IS some sort of plastic apparatus (sensor or something) and then disappears into a rubber hose. The other (lower) connector looks similar to the top one, but then transitions to another piece of hose. Both disappear under the intercooler.
I suppose that two short pieces of hose (as you can sort of see from the picture, the fitting extends into the OEM hose about an inch or so) that meet with a tee that fits the Alta vent would work. There's not a lot of room in there though.
I'll try to get a few more pictures in the morning.
Steve
I suppose that two short pieces of hose (as you can sort of see from the picture, the fitting extends into the OEM hose about an inch or so) that meet with a tee that fits the Alta vent would work. There's not a lot of room in there though.
I'll try to get a few more pictures in the morning.
Steve
#183
I don't know if they are of much more help, but I took some additional photos this morning. You can see them here:
http://homepage.mac.com/sthompson/PhotoAlbum117.html
Feel free to post here or PM me if you have any further questions.
Steve
http://homepage.mac.com/sthompson/PhotoAlbum117.html
Feel free to post here or PM me if you have any further questions.
Steve
#184
Thanks for the pics, email me your address and we will send you the tee and hose we think will work along with a bunch of extra pieces. A .5" tee and short piece of hose should do the trick, but when you do get to installing it try different combos of parts. I will look forward to your email.
#187
New Parts
How about a single sided exhaust that fits both Mini Cooper and Mini Cooper S? The S version will need to have the option to also purchase a Mini Cooper rear valance for the side exit instead of the center exit. The straight through design with minimal bends should provide some extra power - right?
#188
Argh!
Originally Posted by matma92ser
How about a single sided exhaust that fits both Mini Cooper and Mini Cooper S? The S version will need to have the option to also purchase a Mini Cooper rear valance for the side exit instead of the center exit. The straight through design with minimal bends should provide some extra power - right?
I'm sure others have done it. Here are some prices I've been seeing.
2.5" Flange $4
ressonator (4" diameter) $25
2.5" U (to make the zig with mandrel bend tubing) $21 (x2)
Muffler ($25-$300!) chose your poison!
Exhaust tip $20
2.5" Aluminized steel tubing ~$25 for 5 feet.
So for mild steel, that's about $125 in parts. Thow in a gasket, and some hangars and you're talking $150.
If you go ss
2.5" Flange $12
REsonator $50
2.5" Us (x2) $41 ea
Muffler $100
Tip $20
2.5" SS tubing $61
That's $320, plus odds and ends, $340 for parts for SS!
Getting it all welded will be about $100, so if there's a good SS Cooper exhaust with 2.5" pipes and a good muffler and resonator for about $450, I'd buy it (if it weren't defaning). If someone did it in mild steel for $250, I'd buy it as well.
FYI, the Supersprint center pipe with flange and resonator is ~$325.
BTW, the rear lower valence is about $25...
either way, with the right parts this will be lighter than any S exhaust, exept for TonyBs! (and some other wacko racers....)
Matt
#189
matma92ser,
Our original thought was to make one just that. Single sided, like ours in now, but with the tip on the passenger side like the standard. But when we were thinking about this, the mini was very new, and we weren't sure how people would feel about buying a new valance for the car. Plus one of the ways to distinguish the S from the standard is the center exhaust. That would be gone from their car. Some poeple may like the stealthyness of that, but some may not. At the time we were new to the mini crowd and thought we better stick to the single sided, center tip, type system. It would be very easy to adapt the current system to the passenger out muffler. The 2 extra bends it eliminates would be beneficial. It seems like a couple people are interested! I would guess a retail price of the system would be about $100-120 less. Of course it would be all the same 304SS mirror polished, .5" flanges, not mild steel, and 2.5" piping, like ours is now. Just a guess the retail but around $500. The more people ask about something like this, the better chance we will build it.
Our original thought was to make one just that. Single sided, like ours in now, but with the tip on the passenger side like the standard. But when we were thinking about this, the mini was very new, and we weren't sure how people would feel about buying a new valance for the car. Plus one of the ways to distinguish the S from the standard is the center exhaust. That would be gone from their car. Some poeple may like the stealthyness of that, but some may not. At the time we were new to the mini crowd and thought we better stick to the single sided, center tip, type system. It would be very easy to adapt the current system to the passenger out muffler. The 2 extra bends it eliminates would be beneficial. It seems like a couple people are interested! I would guess a retail price of the system would be about $100-120 less. Of course it would be all the same 304SS mirror polished, .5" flanges, not mild steel, and 2.5" piping, like ours is now. Just a guess the retail but around $500. The more people ask about something like this, the better chance we will build it.
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#193
Originally Posted by ALTA2
matma92ser,
Our original thought was to make one just that. Single sided, like ours in now, but with the tip on the passenger side like the standard. But when we were thinking about this, the mini was very new, and we weren't sure how people would feel about buying a new valance for the car. Plus one of the ways to distinguish the S from the standard is the center exhaust. That would be gone from their car. Some poeple may like the stealthyness of that, but some may not. At the time we were new to the mini crowd and thought we better stick to the single sided, center tip, type system. It would be very easy to adapt the current system to the passenger out muffler. The 2 extra bends it eliminates would be beneficial. It seems like a couple people are interested! I would guess a retail price of the system would be about $100-120 less. Of course it would be all the same 304SS mirror polished, .5" flanges, not mild steel, and 2.5" piping, like ours is now. Just a guess the retail but around $500. The more people ask about something like this, the better chance we will build it.
Our original thought was to make one just that. Single sided, like ours in now, but with the tip on the passenger side like the standard. But when we were thinking about this, the mini was very new, and we weren't sure how people would feel about buying a new valance for the car. Plus one of the ways to distinguish the S from the standard is the center exhaust. That would be gone from their car. Some poeple may like the stealthyness of that, but some may not. At the time we were new to the mini crowd and thought we better stick to the single sided, center tip, type system. It would be very easy to adapt the current system to the passenger out muffler. The 2 extra bends it eliminates would be beneficial. It seems like a couple people are interested! I would guess a retail price of the system would be about $100-120 less. Of course it would be all the same 304SS mirror polished, .5" flanges, not mild steel, and 2.5" piping, like ours is now. Just a guess the retail but around $500. The more people ask about something like this, the better chance we will build it.
Maybe even offer a single center outlet instead of the current twin design, that I would like to see also.
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#195
BOth of you bring up a good point about the tip. If it is a passenger side out system, i would guess a nice 4" round tip would look really nice there. It could be the same dual tip but i think round fits the hole better.
About making a single tip for the center out system, we tried to but they just don't look right. It really needs to be oval, but the problem is making the (as dumb as this sounds) inside look nice is very hard. The reason being is that the oval would be so large that the inside becomes a visable to everyone and the tube meeting the oval would be kind of nasty. Trust me, we have tried but just nothing we really liked. Hence the Dual oval tips you see now.
This may be a easy way to build the 3" system. Hmmmmmm.
About making a single tip for the center out system, we tried to but they just don't look right. It really needs to be oval, but the problem is making the (as dumb as this sounds) inside look nice is very hard. The reason being is that the oval would be so large that the inside becomes a visable to everyone and the tube meeting the oval would be kind of nasty. Trust me, we have tried but just nothing we really liked. Hence the Dual oval tips you see now.
This may be a easy way to build the 3" system. Hmmmmmm.
#196
Originally Posted by ALTA2
BOth of you bring up a good point about the tip. If it is a passenger side out system, i would guess a nice 4" round tip would look really nice there. It could be the same dual tip but i think round fits the hole better.
About making a single tip for the center out system, we tried to but they just don't look right. It really needs to be oval, but the problem is making the (as dumb as this sounds) inside look nice is very hard. The reason being is that the oval would be so large that the inside becomes a visable to everyone and the tube meeting the oval would be kind of nasty. Trust me, we have tried but just nothing we really liked. Hence the Dual oval tips you see now.
This may be a easy way to build the 3" system. Hmmmmmm.
About making a single tip for the center out system, we tried to but they just don't look right. It really needs to be oval, but the problem is making the (as dumb as this sounds) inside look nice is very hard. The reason being is that the oval would be so large that the inside becomes a visable to everyone and the tube meeting the oval would be kind of nasty. Trust me, we have tried but just nothing we really liked. Hence the Dual oval tips you see now.
This may be a easy way to build the 3" system. Hmmmmmm.
Is the exhaust for the 05's ready yet ? Do you need a car to test fit one on
#197
Originally Posted by ALTA2
Our original thought was to make one just that. Single sided, like ours in now, but with the tip on the passenger side like the standard....
The more people ask about something like this, the better chance we will build it.
The more people ask about something like this, the better chance we will build it.
#198
Originally Posted by ALTA2
BOth of you bring up a good point about the tip. If it is a passenger side out system, i would guess a nice 4" round tip would look really nice there. It could be the same dual tip but i think round fits the hole better.
#199
Originally Posted by Strom
I agree with this - I think the large single exit would look nice as well. Could you offer an option with the tip being black ceramic coated or powdercoated (see Dinan E46 M3 exhaust)? Then you wouldn't have to worry about cleaning it so much!
#200