I'd do this if I were in your shoes:





Roughly 100 whp and 100 lb-ft at the wheels over stock.

 

might sound dumb - but doenst jcw kit = 210 hp? isnt this just a 'bolt on' job?

 

The above "base" graph is a JCW 200 hp kit. There's a big difference between 210 hp at the crank and 210 whp.

 

The advertised 210 hp of the jcw is at the crank. Take it to the wheels and youre in the (correct me if im wrong...) 185 whp range...

 

I don't consider myself a naysayer at all. I'm impressesd that you're following your own instincts instead of following the herd. But if it will get me a ride in a C5 Killer, I'll say it: Naaaaayyy!

 

I'm new here and still haven't got my MCS, I called today for the JCW package and here in Canada, if you add it to your bill of sale, it's $5600 but if you ask after you bought the car, they want $7200 plus $1200 to install and there's no warranty if you don't pay them to do it, and you'll be missing the limited slip that now comes with the 2006 factory installed JCW.


Now my Question is who sells the twin turbo and how much does it cost?

If it's cheaper and make more power then it's a no-brainer, where can I get all the information I need to do this?

Al

 

Helix and SPI sell the kit. You will save money goin with the twin charge kit and almost triple your power gain.

 

ah.. understand.

Thanks for clearing that up

 

have U modified any of ur' internals yet and is it safe to say that its probably a good thing to do b4 any twinchargin' or NOS (juice) ***which BTW i dont believe in***

 

The stock internals will handle a twincharge system up to 250 whp. ANything above that is pushing what the pistons can handle. This is all acording to Hubbie of SPI.

 

I have been running my setup for a good while. The pistons are fine as of now. The NOS has been on there for about 20,000 miles. I use the bottle two or three times a day.

 

Granted I have a lot more than bolt ons, but it's definatly possible to get 200 HP out of a cooper S. I have some internal engine work done, but I'm running close to 230 WHP. I have a list of the mods at my house, honestly I don't remember all the stuff that's done, but I'll try to post it when I get a chance. Good luck! Just make sure you keep everything balanced, if you upgrade the engine, be sure you upgrade the brakes and tires for increased stopping power, ect. Happy tuning!

 

Not sure what you consider bolts ons, but our stage 4 package puts out about 230 at the wheels, consistently. (On all the cars)

Intake
Cowl Mod
Throttle Body
Plugs
Pulley
WAiC
Port matched intake manifold
Big valve, port and polished head
Cam
EVOtech software
Header
Exhaust


I guess technically the ECU software isn't a "Bolt on"... but the package gets 230 with a 15%... consistently.
Several people use our stage 4 cars as their daily driveras well as in the racing enviroment, saying these cars are reliable would be an understatement.
http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=182


Also check out these videos of one of our sponsored racers. This is Steve Diniz in his Madness Stage 4 MINI... watch the video from the Porsche 993 turbo perspective.
http://www.mini-madness.com/movies/MM2.wmv

And from the MINI's perspective:
http://www.mini-madness.com/movies/MM4.wmv

 

Thank's for the videos they give me motivation to modify my MCS..

 

Any time

 

I am curious when people shoot for a certain power number if they have an underlying goal in terms of performance? Are we looking for lap times, 1/4 mile times, or just a horse power number to be proud of? Just wondering as there are many other things that affect performance. :smile:

 

It must cost a fortune to fill that thing up and how long can you use it? I'd want it ALL the time. How much damage would that do in the long run? I dunno. anyone know?

 

Is that important? What am I missing?

 

Well I would think that anyone who forked out the cash for a C5 Vette didn't buy it just for the looks. I found it very satisfying to crush that guys confidence. Maybe it's just me but pulling a Vette in a MINI is just fun.

 

You can buy N02 for 3-4 dollars a pound. I have a 10 pound bottle which lasts me around 20 trips down the strip. I do have a bottle heater though. That makes it so you can still run the same pressure in the bottle even when it's almost empty.

 

what time your mini does in the 1/4 mile with the 300hp.

 

I have not yet had my car at a 1/4 mile track. My best time at the 1/8 mile is a 8.5 at 89mph. I am spinning half way down the track.

 

I have not modified the internals (I do have a cam). I am also not a fan of NO2 but I do understand why people like it....just not for me.

 

i just thinking in those tires screaming. you are a brave guy.nice job. keeping have fun.

 

can the dealer detect a cam? is it a friendly idle?