Drivetrain 62 kit on its way to M7 ... Yes it is happening
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BTW, I forgot to ask earlier, but how about telling me a little about yourself since I've shared my info? What is your connection to this thread or at least what drives your interest?
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02-17-2007, 04:39 AM
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02-17-2007, 05:01 AM
Sigh. 
Why can't we all just get along?
Peace, love, MINIS and all that stuff.
We all have basically the same motivation here - FUN.
But you'd never know it from the complete lack of basic manners and respect some of us show one another.
It's only a matter of time before fistfights start breaking out at MOTD. Then it's all over. Get a grip, people. Love others as much as you love yourself and your MINI.
Why can't we all just get along?
Peace, love, MINIS and all that stuff.
We all have basically the same motivation here - FUN.
But you'd never know it from the complete lack of basic manners and respect some of us show one another.
It's only a matter of time before fistfights start breaking out at MOTD. Then it's all over. Get a grip, people. Love others as much as you love yourself and your MINI.
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02-17-2007, 06:51 AM
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From time-to-time we've probably had some issues with vendors if we've been at it for very long.
And we've managed to resolve those issues off-line.
Posting confrontational or even baiting/challenging comments make the poster look foolish in the eyes of most of us.
Too bad they can't see it themselves.
Questions of this sort, if they're so critical to the poster, can be answered off-line or with a phone call to the vendor.
A modifications board without vendors pushing the edge would be boring for a lot of us.
Posting to the board continually as a few are doing is posturing at best.
It's especially sad in the case of one poster, who does have a lot of experience. Only now, whatever he posts will aways be tainted.
And we've managed to resolve those issues off-line.
Posting confrontational or even baiting/challenging comments make the poster look foolish in the eyes of most of us.
Too bad they can't see it themselves.
Questions of this sort, if they're so critical to the poster, can be answered off-line or with a phone call to the vendor.
A modifications board without vendors pushing the edge would be boring for a lot of us.
Posting to the board continually as a few are doing is posturing at best.
It's especially sad in the case of one poster, who does have a lot of experience. Only now, whatever he posts will aways be tainted.
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02-17-2007, 08:03 AM
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#356
02-17-2007, 09:14 AM
and what proof do you have? None... thats right! ohh yeah... at least i have some people who have actually seen the car and said that the motor is indeed blown... and if they are lieing what do they have to gain by PMing me that info? my friendship? an e-hug? I guess its just a giant conspiracy against M7...
I am also not the one who is completely and totally obsessed about what happened to the engine. I bet you didn't sleep at all last night.
If you know people that have seen it, have them post some pics.
#357
02-17-2007, 09:23 AM
You are right... what happens in the MINI community keeps me up all night and then some. This has turned me into an insomniac... you were the one who expected me to reply in 30 minutes remember?
PARTSMAN... are you just trying to get this thread locked.
I have been polite through this whole thing. Maybe i should just delete all of my posts and just M7 is lieing to everyone and that the lost the motor due to detonating on the dyno...
instead i was trying to let them explain the truth as to what has happened. then they lied... and all of you are still defending them.
why am i doing this?
Because vendors shouldn't over promise and under deliver. Customers/potential clients, and the NAM community should not be lied to. And as far as letting the community hear about the development of a product. do so without lying.
I am just asking for some honesty... why do a few of you fail to see this...
and for the rest of you who are filling up my inbox with pms that who are supporting and even supplying me with an examples of when M7 has lied/missinformed/over promised and under/never delivered or has been a hypocritial. Keep sending them my way. I will try to keep my inbox clean to recieve them. I know it has been full from time to time but i am trying to stay on top of it.
Also, as a courtesy to M7 I will NOT be posting these examples... there is no need or reason to do that. That would just be mean spirited. I am not trying to destroy M7s business. I would never do that. I have too much respect for entrepenuers. its a tough thing to do and i respect that. However, they do need to learn from there mistakes. I will say this, all of you say they have great customer support and that is what will allow them to endour this and retain most of you as clients. The same can't be said from Webb im afraid.
#358
02-17-2007, 09:58 AM
You are being completely childish about this.
You are right... what happens in the MINI community keeps me up all night and then some. This has turned me into an insomniac... you were the one who expected me to reply in 30 minutes remember?
PARTSMAN... are you just trying to get this thread locked.
I have been polite through this whole thing. Maybe i should just delete all of my posts and just M7 is lieing to everyone and that the lost the motor due to detonating on the dyno...
instead i was trying to let them explain the truth as to what has happened. then they lied... and all of you are still defending them.
why am i doing this?
Because vendors shouldn't over promise and under deliver. Customers/potential clients, and the NAM community should not be lied to. And as far as letting the community hear about the development of a product. do so without lying.
I am just asking for some honesty... why do a few of you fail to see this...
and for the rest of you who are filling up my inbox with pms that who are supporting and even supplying me with an examples of when M7 has lied/missinformed/over promised and under/never delivered or has been a hypocritial. Keep sending them my way. I will try to keep my inbox clean to recieve them. I know it has been full from time to time but i am trying to stay on top of it.
Also, as a courtesy to M7 I will NOT be posting these examples... there is no need or reason to do that. That would just be mean spirited. I am not trying to destroy M7s business. I would never do that. I have too much respect for entrepenuers. its a tough thing to do and i respect that. However, they do need to learn from there mistakes. I will say this, all of you say they have great customer support and that is what will allow them to endour this and retain most of you as clients. The same can't be said from Webb im afraid.
You are right... what happens in the MINI community keeps me up all night and then some. This has turned me into an insomniac... you were the one who expected me to reply in 30 minutes remember?
PARTSMAN... are you just trying to get this thread locked.
I have been polite through this whole thing. Maybe i should just delete all of my posts and just M7 is lieing to everyone and that the lost the motor due to detonating on the dyno...
instead i was trying to let them explain the truth as to what has happened. then they lied... and all of you are still defending them.
why am i doing this?
Because vendors shouldn't over promise and under deliver. Customers/potential clients, and the NAM community should not be lied to. And as far as letting the community hear about the development of a product. do so without lying.
I am just asking for some honesty... why do a few of you fail to see this...
and for the rest of you who are filling up my inbox with pms that who are supporting and even supplying me with an examples of when M7 has lied/missinformed/over promised and under/never delivered or has been a hypocritial. Keep sending them my way. I will try to keep my inbox clean to recieve them. I know it has been full from time to time but i am trying to stay on top of it.
Also, as a courtesy to M7 I will NOT be posting these examples... there is no need or reason to do that. That would just be mean spirited. I am not trying to destroy M7s business. I would never do that. I have too much respect for entrepenuers. its a tough thing to do and i respect that. However, they do need to learn from there mistakes. I will say this, all of you say they have great customer support and that is what will allow them to endour this and retain most of you as clients. The same can't be said from Webb im afraid.
I'm not trying to get the thread locked, although i'm surprised that it hasn't been.
This will be my last post to you about this issue, as we could go back and forth all day about this, and I have better things to do.
Think what you will about M7, and express it to as many people as you can, but remember, what comes around goes around.
#359
02-17-2007, 11:17 AM
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02-17-2007, 01:13 PM
Isellem and motorsports3. I have a question to both of you as I read this thread about a product I may have interest in down the road. Who are you guys and what do you do for a living that you have all this interest and knowledge about what happened and why. Send me a PM when you can. I'm just wondering. I really don't need to have you guys post the answer in this thread.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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02-17-2007, 01:17 PM
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You are being completely childish about this.
You are right... what happens in the MINI community keeps me up all night and then some. This has turned me into an insomniac... you were the one who expected me to reply in 30 minutes remember?
PARTSMAN... are you just trying to get this thread locked.
I have been polite through this whole thing. Maybe i should just delete all of my posts and just M7 is lieing to everyone and that the lost the motor due to detonating on the dyno...
instead i was trying to let them explain the truth as to what has happened. then they lied... and all of you are still defending them.
why am i doing this?
Because vendors shouldn't over promise and under deliver. Customers/potential clients, and the NAM community should not be lied to. And as far as letting the community hear about the development of a product. do so without lying.
I am just asking for some honesty... why do a few of you fail to see this...
and for the rest of you who are filling up my inbox with pms that who are supporting and even supplying me with an examples of when M7 has lied/missinformed/over promised and under/never delivered or has been a hypocritial. Keep sending them my way. I will try to keep my inbox clean to recieve them. I know it has been full from time to time but i am trying to stay on top of it.
Also, as a courtesy to M7 I will NOT be posting these examples... there is no need or reason to do that. That would just be mean spirited. I am not trying to destroy M7s business. I would never do that. I have too much respect for entrepenuers. its a tough thing to do and i respect that. However, they do need to learn from there mistakes. I will say this, all of you say they have great customer support and that is what will allow them to endour this and retain most of you as clients. The same can't be said from Webb im afraid.
You are right... what happens in the MINI community keeps me up all night and then some. This has turned me into an insomniac... you were the one who expected me to reply in 30 minutes remember?
PARTSMAN... are you just trying to get this thread locked.
I have been polite through this whole thing. Maybe i should just delete all of my posts and just M7 is lieing to everyone and that the lost the motor due to detonating on the dyno...
instead i was trying to let them explain the truth as to what has happened. then they lied... and all of you are still defending them.
why am i doing this?
Because vendors shouldn't over promise and under deliver. Customers/potential clients, and the NAM community should not be lied to. And as far as letting the community hear about the development of a product. do so without lying.
I am just asking for some honesty... why do a few of you fail to see this...
and for the rest of you who are filling up my inbox with pms that who are supporting and even supplying me with an examples of when M7 has lied/missinformed/over promised and under/never delivered or has been a hypocritial. Keep sending them my way. I will try to keep my inbox clean to recieve them. I know it has been full from time to time but i am trying to stay on top of it.
Also, as a courtesy to M7 I will NOT be posting these examples... there is no need or reason to do that. That would just be mean spirited. I am not trying to destroy M7s business. I would never do that. I have too much respect for entrepenuers. its a tough thing to do and i respect that. However, they do need to learn from there mistakes. I will say this, all of you say they have great customer support and that is what will allow them to endour this and retain most of you as clients. The same can't be said from Webb im afraid.
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I’ve been incommunicado for about a week, and I missed NAM quite a bit; until I saw this childish diatribe.
It’s pretty obvious to me that some around here have an agenda, a lack of common courtesy or most likely both.
We deal with vendors in all facets of our life, NAM being a small subset. I’ve made a conscious decision to not do business with some companies, and I have chosen to do so for my own, personal reasons. Others of course do the same; and on top of that, a few somehow feel compelled to share this personal decision publicly, even repeatedly.
Listen, if you don’t like how a company expresses itself, promotes its products, feel betrayed due to a lack of information, or whatever, then I would venture to guess you’ve made a decision to not do business with them. Spare us all the personal judgment in this public space.
On the topic of the DFIC, sure Alta showed their offering (a prototype) on NAM earlier; like this means something. But when M7 revealed the DFIC, it was a final production piece, and with that, was to market sooner. I suppose if Peter would have shown a prototype sooner, we wouldn’t have to hear such worthless comparisons as to who posted first on NAM. Instead, we would have heard crap of how M7 talks too prematurely about a product
. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t...
In a vendor, I look for products that I want, prices that I find reasonable, and support that I feel I deserve. I get that from M7. If I didn’t, I certainly wouldn’t feel the need to belabor them publicly; unless I had ulterior motives, or was wronged in some dealing and attempts at private communications were fruitless. I realize that some have favorites around here, and that is fine, but the negative campaigning is shameful.
If and when the M62 proves to be worthwhile, I have nothing more to say here...
It’s pretty obvious to me that some around here have an agenda, a lack of common courtesy or most likely both.
We deal with vendors in all facets of our life, NAM being a small subset. I’ve made a conscious decision to not do business with some companies, and I have chosen to do so for my own, personal reasons. Others of course do the same; and on top of that, a few somehow feel compelled to share this personal decision publicly, even repeatedly.
Listen, if you don’t like how a company expresses itself, promotes its products, feel betrayed due to a lack of information, or whatever, then I would venture to guess you’ve made a decision to not do business with them. Spare us all the personal judgment in this public space.
On the topic of the DFIC, sure Alta showed their offering (a prototype) on NAM earlier; like this means something. But when M7 revealed the DFIC, it was a final production piece, and with that, was to market sooner. I suppose if Peter would have shown a prototype sooner, we wouldn’t have to hear such worthless comparisons as to who posted first on NAM. Instead, we would have heard crap of how M7 talks too prematurely about a product
. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t...In a vendor, I look for products that I want, prices that I find reasonable, and support that I feel I deserve. I get that from M7. If I didn’t, I certainly wouldn’t feel the need to belabor them publicly; unless I had ulterior motives, or was wronged in some dealing and attempts at private communications were fruitless. I realize that some have favorites around here, and that is fine, but the negative campaigning is shameful.
If and when the M62 proves to be worthwhile, I have nothing more to say here...
#363
02-18-2007, 08:15 AM
Wow this thread has really gotten ugly........I've been reading Mini2 and NAM for years and finally decided to start posting/sharing. I do love my lightly modded MCS and it's fun to see what Vendors and tuners do to their machines! I'm glad I have this forum to read/learn and now share with other happy MINI owners.
Breaking things has its purposes. To me it's great to know what a 'specific engine' can take before it lets loose. This lets us all compare our engines to said specific engine that went kersplat. Vendors need to have leeway in this respect as they try to develop a capable 'KIT' for possible consumers! We all know what it's like to have somebody looking over our shoulder when we are hard at work. haha
So back to the M62-SpiderX and other M62 operators, are you loving your MINIS' now? Do they work well low down as modded M45's do-like 2-4K-or do you only see the magic above 4k? Thanks!
Breaking things has its purposes. To me it's great to know what a 'specific engine' can take before it lets loose. This lets us all compare our engines to said specific engine that went kersplat. Vendors need to have leeway in this respect as they try to develop a capable 'KIT' for possible consumers! We all know what it's like to have somebody looking over our shoulder when we are hard at work. haha
So back to the M62-SpiderX and other M62 operators, are you loving your MINIS' now? Do they work well low down as modded M45's do-like 2-4K-or do you only see the magic above 4k? Thanks!
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02-18-2007, 10:16 AM
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I love it. I don't regret it. It's better at all rpm's IMO. I've not had one problem. I can't wait to see what M7 comes up with and waiting is just fine with me without presupposition in any direction. I look forward to continue pushing the performance of the M62. I do not care to provide any details beyond that as I don't care to get blasted by anyone in the peanut gallery. PM me if you want but I'll neither confirm or deny I said anything to anyone beyond anything posted here. There's enough chum in the water. Have a nice day. 
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02-18-2007, 04:21 PM
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Cost...
Perhaps this has been answered before, and, if so, an update based on cumulative experience would be appreciated. For those who have either direct or indirect experience with the M62 supercharger, what do you expect the "ballpark" costs to be? I'm aware there may be a number of variables to consider, e.g., degree of pre-existing modifications and expected use of the M62, but some general figures might be in order.
Scenario---No extensive mods. What might the final cost be if the following are needed in addition to the M62...injectors, camshaft, p/p head, header, cat-back, ECU tune, labor?
Thanks,
Scenario---No extensive mods. What might the final cost be if the following are needed in addition to the M62...injectors, camshaft, p/p head, header, cat-back, ECU tune, labor?
Thanks,
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Perhaps this has been answered before, and, if so, an update based on cumulative experience would be appreciated. For those who have either direct or indirect experience with the M62 supercharger, what do you expect the "ballpark" costs to be? I'm aware there may be a number of variables to consider, e.g., degree of pre-existing modifications and expected use of the M62, but some general figures might be in order.
Scenario---No extensive mods. What might the final cost be if the following are needed in addition to the M62...injectors, camshaft, p/p head, header, cat-back, ECU tune, labor?
Thanks,
Scenario---No extensive mods. What might the final cost be if the following are needed in addition to the M62...injectors, camshaft, p/p head, header, cat-back, ECU tune, labor?
Thanks,
#370
02-18-2007, 04:58 PM
Perhaps this has been answered before, and, if so, an update based on cumulative experience would be appreciated. For those who have either direct or indirect experience with the M62 supercharger, what do you expect the "ballpark" costs to be? I'm aware there may be a number of variables to consider, e.g., degree of pre-existing modifications and expected use of the M62, but some general figures might be in order.
Scenario---No extensive mods. What might the final cost be if the following are needed in addition to the M62...injectors, camshaft, p/p head, header, cat-back, ECU tune, labor?
Thanks,
Scenario---No extensive mods. What might the final cost be if the following are needed in addition to the M62...injectors, camshaft, p/p head, header, cat-back, ECU tune, labor?
Thanks,
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02-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Are any M62 operators going to AMVIV next month, or to either Mini Meet West or East in the summer? It would be great to have these cars viewed by other enthusiasts at large shows/meets!
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02-19-2007, 07:47 AM
Problem is...
It seems to me we've already got 3 happy risk takers! Whskysouth I'm glad you're enjoying the M62 blower mod!
Are any M62 operators going to AMVIV next month, or to either Mini Meet West or East in the summer? It would be great to have these cars viewed by other enthusiasts at large shows/meets!
Are any M62 operators going to AMVIV next month, or to either Mini Meet West or East in the summer? It would be great to have these cars viewed by other enthusiasts at large shows/meets!
Matt