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Old 04-03-2020 | 06:40 PM
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What Home Charging Equipment Are You Using?

(assuming you do charge at home)
 
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Old 04-04-2020 | 10:37 AM
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My dealer is using BMWs charger (logically).

$1000 is about what I expected to pay for one of these, but I haven't done much research. There's something nice about staying OEM though. That will be my plan if we pick up an SE.
 
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Old 04-05-2020 | 07:11 AM
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ChargePoint for me. Up here it is 240v at 32A. I have a very long cable for it that I actually snaked through my foundation (so I could have the EVSE in the garage and the plug outside).

I documented it over at my EV help page:

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Old 04-05-2020 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jamez
ChargePoint for me. Up here it is 240v at 32A. I have a very long cable for it that I actually snaked through my foundation (so I could have the EVSE in the garage and the plug outside).
Interesting installation. I am curious why you have just the cable outside. Is it lower cost? Or simply the cable is too long?
 
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Old 04-06-2020 | 05:42 AM
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Interesting installation. I am curious why you have just the cable outside. Is it lower cost? Or simply the cable is too long?
Having the EVSE outside was going to leave it exposed to the elements (even though it is weather rated), as well as creating a tricky exterior NEMA 14-50 solution. By installing the EVSE inside, It should last much longer, and the cable is modular and replaceable. Others shove them under the garage door, but I don't want to give rodents any more possible avenues to enter.
 
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Old 04-06-2020 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jamez
Having the EVSE outside was going to leave it exposed to the elements (even though it is weather rated), as well as creating a tricky exterior NEMA 14-50 solution. By installing the EVSE inside, It should last much longer, and the cable is modular and replaceable. Others shove them under the garage door, but I don't want to give rodents any more possible avenues to enter.
Smart!
 
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Old 04-07-2020 | 09:34 PM
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Was able to get a JuiceBox 32 Next Gen installed maybe a week before we went into lockdown here. Works okay, but it doesn't seem as "smart" as I was expecting. Like, I can't seem to tell it, "Have the car charged to 90% by 7am, and start charging whenever is necessary to make that happen just in time."

I can schedule it myself, though, which is fine, but I thought it would be smarter.
 
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Old 04-08-2020 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jumpmini
Was able to get a JuiceBox 32 Next Gen installed maybe a week before we went into lockdown here. Works okay, but it doesn't seem as "smart" as I was expecting. Like, I can't seem to tell it, "Have the car charged to 90% by 7am, and start charging whenever is necessary to make that happen just in time."

I can schedule it myself, though, which is fine, but I thought it would be smarter.
Don't know a lot about EVSE's, but can any of them "predict" charging time?

I assume it varies by vehicle, battery condition, temperature and perhaps other factors, so that what you are asking is not possible.

But keep in mind I don't own one yet, and perhaps don't know what I'm talking about :-)
 
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Old 04-08-2020 | 07:44 AM
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It was my understanding that this sort of thing is controlled on the vehicle side. The charger supplies as much or as little as the car is asking for. You are correct that it would be an insurmountable task to teach the EVSE about the intricacies of every vehicle on the market, but teaching an EVSE to "listen" well should be trivial.

As an aside: JuiceBox is a wonderful brand name for an EVSE.
 
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Old 04-08-2020 | 11:19 AM
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BMW/MINI misses the gist of intelligent battery charging. It is pretty evident in the implementation of the IBS system for keeping your battery charged in gas powered vehicles. The system is supposed to be intelligent/smart and yet you have to tell it when you put in a new battery. My $20 Duracell battery tender has the brains how to taper charge a battery as do many other charges under $100. So why BMW can't get it right is a question that I can't answer. It's obvious that the circuitry is pretty inexpensive.

Guess I'll be waiting for another year at this point before going electric.
 
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Old 04-08-2020 | 01:38 PM
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The system is supposed to be intelligent/smart and yet you have to tell it when you put in a new battery. My $20 Duracell battery tender has the brains how to taper charge a battery as do many other charges under $100.
I'm under the impression many new cars have that requirement today
because the car's charging strategy varies depending on the exact capacity of the battery as well as it's age.

Not sure if it has to do with AGM batteries, trying to maximize the life of a battery, or minimizing fuel mileage by making the alternator work as little as possible or a combination of these, or other things. How else would the car know the capacity of the battery and it's age?

Your $20 battery tender does not have the ability to tell the age and capacity of you battery either.
 
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Old 06-14-2020 | 08:39 AM
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Tesla HPWCg2 and (probably) this EVSE J1772 adapter

We have a Model 3, and I just made this cable holder so my wife can park the car forward on the right-hand side of the garage, because her charging port is port aft. When my Mini comes, with its port at the starboard aft, we'll be able to share the charger, if I get an adapter like this one:

https://www.evseadapters.com/product...nt=36339297937

The High Power Wall Connector is on a 60 amp breaker and, so, can deliver 48 amps at 240VAC.



 
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Old 07-23-2020 | 07:55 AM
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Last year when I ordered my MINI Cooper SE (yet to arrive), I read that the car could charge on AC at 11 kW. So I ran out and replaced my 9.6 kW EVSE (used to charge my Honda Clarity PHEV) with an 11 kW (48 Amp) ClipperCreek EVSE. That was a mistake because I later learned that the SE can charge at 11 kW only on a 3-phase EVSE, which is something found only in the UK and Europe. My old 9.6 kW EVSE would have been more than adequate for the 7.4 kW charging rate of the MINI Cooper SE on single-phase AC. In addition to the increased cost of the 48-Amp EVSE, I'm now stuck with a really thick, heavy charging cord that is a bit unwieldy for my wife to wrangle.
 
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