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Old 07-27-2010, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronvb
Got the Hoen fogs and city lights the other week and installed them today after I detailed my car. The fogs are a huge improvement over the stock ones and pretty close match to the xenon headlights. I know some people aren't totally satisfied with the color match, but they're good enough for me and more than what I wanted. No more yellow/orangish fogs.


Fog Lights Hoen H8 xenonmatch:
http://www.hoen-usa.com/fog.htm

City Lights W5W:
http://www.hoen-usa.com/city.htm

The installation took me 5 minutes. Turned the wheels, popped the cap off, unclipped both lights. City light has one pressure clip and the fog light has two pressure clips on the sides. (Note: I don't think it's possible to get the bulb mounts out without unclipping the harness. There just isn't enough room to twist.) Once both wire harnesses are off I just twisted the bulb mount counter-clock wise. City light I just swapped the bulb in the mount, fog light I replaced the whole mount, which has the bulb in it. Plugged everything back in and so far so good. No bulb out warnings or flickering.

I would say it's a pretty nice mod, and not too expensive either, and extremely easy to do.
Thanks for this recap info!

I think like you were, I'm fed up with my city lights (and fog lights - which I rarely use) looking really stupid compared to my Xenons.

Have you had any of the poor behavior that seems to have plagued other posters in this thread?
 
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by franklinminty
Thanks for this recap info!

I think like you were, I'm fed up with my city lights (and fog lights - which I rarely use) looking really stupid compared to my Xenons.

Have you had any of the poor behavior that seems to have plagued other posters in this thread?
Nope none at all. My FOB unlock button unlocks all doors so I haven't seen any issues with the CL icon appearing after two clicks. Though I've clicked it more than once and no CL's showed up.

I'm wondering if different car years play an issue here. As I don't see any reason why there would be a problem. The stock bulbs and the hoen bulbs look identical and they plug in perfectly. No hacking or modifying anything, which I like. Just plug and play.
 
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:13 PM
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can i request pics of the city lights. i ordered the led lights from them that i eventually pulled as they threw errors more and more daily!

are there any other CEL -less solutions. i HATE the dingy yellowish OEM bulbs!
 
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:05 PM
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Okay so I switched my FOB to unlock one door instead of both. Tested thoroughly and did what the other posts did and could not get it to set off a 'Check Light' warning.

and here's a photo of my lights(during the day):

 
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good enough for me
 
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The money spent is well worth it. If the lights last me 6 months I would be satisfied, if they last me a year then even better.
 
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Rockin - thanks so much aaronvb - seems like a potential huge gain for what... $50?!

Even if it errors, I'm hardly out of pocket much.

I might also chuck in the stealth indicators
 
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronvb
The money spent is well worth it. If the lights last me 6 months I would be satisfied, if they last me a year then even better.

Oh, and slick car
 
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those who are adamant about LEDs, Dan at Mach V has LED city lights complete with resistors.

http://www.fastmini.net/ledexli.html
 
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Originally Posted by pillar
those who are adamant about LEDs, Dan at Mach V has LED city lights complete with resistors.

http://www.fastmini.net/ledexli.html
I wonder how hard the wiring in of the resistors are and if there is any wire cutting involved (there usually is from my understanding of resistors).
 
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Dan is a really nice guy... Id give him a call. pms/emails take too long to respond.

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anything new on the led-city light/eyelids?
 
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i took pillar's suggestion / advice (thank you!) and got the LED kit from mach v.

It looks like a simple enough replacement but I haven't had a chance to complete it. Hopefully this weekend.

Couple of LEDs, couple of resistors, and a handful of wiring crimper connectors.

Reverse light and stealth indicators (front and rear) already completed. Getting the reverse light in was the only PITA - it is almost impossible to get to, even with my teeny hands!

Will post results asap
 
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I will probably be buying the same LEDs so let me know how the install goes
 
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Finally, I'm all done.

Stealth indicators (front and rear), xenon match fogs, led city lights, xenon match reverse light.

For those interested, here are the instructions for the LED city lights that include the resistors.

Davidoyo - have any luck?

You'll need:
  • Utility knife
  • Scissors
  • Electrical tape
  • Pliers
  • (Maybe) wire stripper.
  • A good light to light the tire well. As you work on it.
First, replace the lamp
  • Do one side at a time; turn the wheel OUT to get the most room.
  • Remove the access cover
  • Reach in and find the lamp holder and turn it -- I think it's counterclockwise when viewed from the rear. It turns about 1/8 of a turn and can be a little tough to get going. If you have trouble with leverage, try coming in lower, e.g. lie down and reach up towards it.
  • Pull the holder out and swap the lamp. The lamp is polarized but will plug in either way. You can look at the diode markings and figure it out, but it's easy enough to just plug it in and see if it works. If just left the light dangling in the tire well and tried the lights.
    • The car should report that the light is out (because the resistor isn't in place yet and the LED lamp doesn't draw sufficient current for the sensor). The light should come on though.
Second, install the resistor
  • Now you need to connect the resistor, it goes in parallel with the lamp, which means one end connects with each wire leading the to lamps. This is where having good light really helps.
  • The wires leading to the lamp are wrapped with electrical tape / shielding. We need to remove a few inches to get some working space.
  • Using the utility knife, give a tiny slit to the bottom of the electrical tape -- near the lamp, there is probably a little room to work with. Just a tiny slit, you don't want to nick the wires.
  • Unwrap the electrical tape a little to get a grippable portion, then pull it away to expose about two inches, snip off the electrical tape you don't need any more.
  • At this point, you should have a dangling lamp holder with LED lamp and two wires leading to it. On ours, one was brown, the other black - they had some other stripes on them too, but I don't recall the colors. It's not important though.
  • We got some connector clips - I wasn't thrilled with them, but got them work. They're red plastic with a clasp and a connector blade. The idea is you feed the wires, close the clasp and the blade cuts and makes the connection. Note that on channel of the clip is through, the other has a barrier. The through channel is for the lamp wire; the barrier one is for the resistor.
  • For each wire:
    • Straighten the wire a bit so it's easier to work with.
    • Rock the clip so it's over the lamp holder wire.
    • Feed the resistor wire into the channel with the barrier -- make sure you go the long way so the blade will cut that wire. If the hold is tentative, use a bit of tape to hold it together while you work.
    • USING pliers, carefully push the blade through -- I found this made a connection much easier than using the clips own clasp.
  • Put a bit of electrical tape between the leads -- don't seal it, this is temporary.
  • Check the lights to make sure they work and the warning indicators go off.
  • Now close the clasps and wrap things up with some electrical tape so it's secure. Make sure to keep it flexible enough so the lamp holder can move freely from the wire bundle.
Put the lamp back in the holder
  • Look closely at the lamp holder. On the side there are two little nubs -- one is slightly larger than the other. The lamp will only go in one way, and this is why.
  • From the back, those notches go at northeast and southwest (I think).
  • Feed the lamp through - you can actually see it fairly clearly from the front of the car if you have a decent reach.
  • It should go all the way through; if it seems like it rocks a bit too much or isn't in all the way, try rotating 180 degrees and see if you can get it in further.
  • Tighten it with a 1/8 clockwise turn. It should click into place.
  • Replace cover.
 
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you are welcome! Cant help but spread the good word bout Dan...
 
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Originally Posted by franklinminty
Finally, I'm all done.

Davidoyo - have any luck?
I tried it, but because I am such a noob when it comes to electrical wires and stuff like that I could not do it. I was actual going to ask you for some install/completed pictures as I am more of a visual person.
 
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Originally Posted by Davidoyo
I tried it, but because I am such a noob when it comes to electrical wires and stuff like that I could not do it. I was actual going to ask you for some install/completed pictures as I am more of a visual person.
I'll try and get some posted this weekend. I do have some, but not for each step, but it "should" help a bit
 
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Old 09-10-2010, 09:22 AM
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I will also reiterate, that the red plastic connectors we got were really quite difficult to use. I ended up hard-wiring one side as it was so tough.

Hey, I'm just a girl with absolutely no upper body strength whatsoever!
 
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Originally Posted by franklinminty
I'll try and get some posted this weekend. I do have some, but not for each step, but it "should" help a bit
That's fine. Pretty much any pictures would help at this point.
 
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Converted my front markers/city lights to very nice pure white LEDs, at a fraction of the cost and headache. Picked this up on ebay...built in resistors so no error codes, and less than $12.00 a pair. I can snap a couple of pictures if you'd like.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT
 
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There is a before and after of the lamp holder

No idea how to make these unthumbnailed...
 
Attached Thumbnails Front fog lamp bulbs-bits.jpg   Front fog lamp bulbs-light-before.jpg   Front fog lamp bulbs-installed.jpg  
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and here is the comparison
 
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Anyone know if these would work?

http://www.amazon.com/NOKYA-All-Dire...=38JAVDFJ23BFF

I'm thinking about getting these for the eyelids, and the nokya H8 yellows for the fog lamps.
 
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Originally Posted by Cheerio44
http://www.amazon.com/NOKYA-All-Dire...=38JAVDFJ23BFF

I'm thinking about getting these for the eyelids, and the nokya H8 yellows for the fog lamps.
If you do go with those let us know. With so many led's that might be very bright. The key is the bulb out though. I'm really bummed I had to pull the hoen led's but driving along and getting random alarms was really really uncool!
 


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