F55/F56 F56 Hood Scoop, cosmetic only?
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The R56 is a semi-functional hood scoop where half the holes are blocked off in the grid pattern, but it does allow some cool air to come in and hot air to escape. (at least mine is)
With a completely sealed F56 hood scoop, would taking a dremel to the grid pattern and opening up some holes do any good?
Just seems odd that the F56 would have the hood scoop completely sealed off. Then again, with the new engine, maybe it's less of an issue?
With a completely sealed F56 hood scoop, would taking a dremel to the grid pattern and opening up some holes do any good?
Just seems odd that the F56 would have the hood scoop completely sealed off. Then again, with the new engine, maybe it's less of an issue?
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Call me the old guy, but I recall something similar being said in 2007 with the launch of the R56. Two melted hood scoops later those of us who were early adopters got smart and dremeled them out...right before MINI recalled it and supplied new ones that were actually vented.
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Call me the old guy, but I recall something similar being said in 2007 with the launch of the R56. Two melted hood scoops later those of us who were early adopters got smart and dremeled them out...right before MINI recalled it and supplied new ones that were actually vented.
There was a service bulletin that if the customer complained about hood scoop deformation due to excessive heat, the dealer would install a replacement hood scoop and retrofit a heat shield under the bonnet to prevent the new scoop from deforming.
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The R56 is a semi-functional hood scoop where half the holes are blocked off in the grid pattern, but it does allow some cool air to come in and hot air to escape. (at least mine is)
With a completely sealed F56 hood scoop, would taking a dremel to the grid pattern and opening up some holes do any good?
Just seems odd that the F56 would have the hood scoop completely sealed off. Then again, with the new engine, maybe it's less of an issue?
With a completely sealed F56 hood scoop, would taking a dremel to the grid pattern and opening up some holes do any good?
Just seems odd that the F56 would have the hood scoop completely sealed off. Then again, with the new engine, maybe it's less of an issue?
On R56 it just blows air into the engine compartment for no particularly good reason, other than to look pretty and warp with age and heat. The solution for warping was to insulate the R56 hood scoop from the engine bay heat with a thermal blanket. Enough said
F56 scoop is 100% cosmetic, which is perfectly fine.
The air intake in both R56 and F56 scoops fresh cold air into the engine through the air ducts in the grill, making overhead scoop superfluous.
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I disagree with this.
There are others here that would disagree as well.
As I said, the R56 doesn't have a "true" hood scoop, but it does allow some cool air to come in and hot air to escape, making it "semi-functional", "quasi-functional" etc. But it's not 100% cosmetic and "there is nothing functional about R56 hood scoop" is not a true statement, sorry.
There are others here that would disagree as well.
As I said, the R56 doesn't have a "true" hood scoop, but it does allow some cool air to come in and hot air to escape, making it "semi-functional", "quasi-functional" etc. But it's not 100% cosmetic and "there is nothing functional about R56 hood scoop" is not a true statement, sorry.
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Originally Posted by afadeev
There is nothing functional about R56 hood scoop...
There are others here that would disagree as well.
As I said, the R56 doesn't have a "true" hood scoop, but it does allow some cool air to come in and hot air to escape, making it "semi-functional", "quasi-functional" etc. But it's not 100% cosmetic and "there is nothing functional about R56 hood scoop" is not a true statement, sorry.
- there is nothing functional about R56 (2nd gen MCS) hood scoop from the cold air intake perspective.
Which to me, is the only reason to have a hood scoop, other than for looks.
There are plenty of other openings in the noose of the car to circulate air through the engine bay: grill and under-body area, to name but a few.
For the same reason, you can punch a few holes in F56 hood scoop and the blanket behind it, but it wont make it any more functional and any less cosmetic.
The only reason R53 had an air scoop that I consider functional, is that it directed air straight into the air intake filter box. That served a clear and useful function.
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Recall? I am not familiar with this at all. Is there any documentation?
There was a service bulletin that if the customer complained about hood scoop deformation due to excessive heat, the dealer would install a replacement hood scoop and retrofit a heat shield under the bonnet to prevent the new scoop from deforming.
There was a service bulletin that if the customer complained about hood scoop deformation due to excessive heat, the dealer would install a replacement hood scoop and retrofit a heat shield under the bonnet to prevent the new scoop from deforming.
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Per my MA, the melting of the R56 intake was due to its close proximity to the turbo.
Also, it is doubtful that much under-hood hot air escapes through the R56 intake holes. Outside air definitely gets in, but the design of that intake does much more to allow air in rather than out. If there were hood ducts added to the hood, those would allow some hot air to escape. Having had a 2003 Cobra with hood ducts, I am very familiar with how they work. Many of us used a cold air intake with the intake mounted in the fender-well to bring cooler outside air into the supercharger. And we modified our hood ducts to allow more under-hood hot air to escape. Very effective mod.
Also, it is doubtful that much under-hood hot air escapes through the R56 intake holes. Outside air definitely gets in, but the design of that intake does much more to allow air in rather than out. If there were hood ducts added to the hood, those would allow some hot air to escape. Having had a 2003 Cobra with hood ducts, I am very familiar with how they work. Many of us used a cold air intake with the intake mounted in the fender-well to bring cooler outside air into the supercharger. And we modified our hood ducts to allow more under-hood hot air to escape. Very effective mod.
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Torpeau I agree!- so the R56 and F56 rear spoliers are for what? Besides getting the rear window dirty (because of turbulence back there). Doubt they hold the rear wheels down - even at speeds over 100mph.
So things on the F56 that are for ornamental purposes only:
Hood Air Scoop
Rear Spoiler
Disco circle around the center instrument cluster
So things on the F56 that are for ornamental purposes only:
Hood Air Scoop
Rear Spoiler
Disco circle around the center instrument cluster
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It will continue with F56, but not until the JCW model comes out.
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The R53 S had a true functional hood scoop, it's purpose was to increase performance. The R56 S (post launch) had some holes punched in it to keep the Prince from cooking its bonnet. The term "functional" and "hood scoop" has a generally accepted meaning on performance oriented cars, and a patch to keep the R56 from blistering its bonnet is not one of them, though I'm sure an R56 fanatic will be along any time now to stretch this definition to include such.
As for the F56, I suspect engine cooling was properly engineered to begin with, and will not have to rely on a "functional scoop" to keep itself from burning up.
As for the F56, I suspect engine cooling was properly engineered to begin with, and will not have to rely on a "functional scoop" to keep itself from burning up.
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The difference is French (Peugeot) R56 engineering vs. German (BMW) engineering. I think the Germans, especially BMW, know how to build engines. As for the French, well the R56 stands as a testament to their engineering prowess.
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BMW had a hand in the engineering of the Prince engine, specifically with the variable valve system.
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I've long wondered if the N14 engine was long delayed revenge for events of the mid-20th century... :-)