My 09 JCW is getting a new engine...couple questions for the experts
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My 09 JCW is getting a new engine...couple questions for the experts
About 10 days ago my car lost power going up a hill and the CEL light came on. I immediately took it to my local indy and then we had it towed to the Mini dealer. On Friday, my service advisor called to tell me it had a burnt valve and scoring inside several of the cylinder walls. Time for a new engine.
The car has ~42k on it so the question is while I am "in there" what else should be done? I am thinking at least the clutch. Anything else?
Also, what affect will this have on my resale value? First thought is that it should add a bunch since it'll have a new engine/clutch and a 2 year warranty on the new stuff, but then I wonder if potential buyers run away when they see that a car has had an engine replacement?
The car has ~42k on it so the question is while I am "in there" what else should be done? I am thinking at least the clutch. Anything else?
Also, what affect will this have on my resale value? First thought is that it should add a bunch since it'll have a new engine/clutch and a 2 year warranty on the new stuff, but then I wonder if potential buyers run away when they see that a car has had an engine replacement?
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Of course engine failure at 42k isn't reasonable and I think that is why most of the cost is being covered by Mini. My receipts indicate the prior owner of the car had the entire timing chain assembly replaced in Feb 2012 @ 25k miles so I think it was fine. My indy mechanic tried to explain to me how the burnt valve could have happened from the engine running too lean, but I don't really think I'll know for sure until Mini has more time to diagnose. It was late Friday when I got the call from my SA with the news.
Last edited by 05BJU; 03-09-2014 at 02:53 PM.
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It won't increase resale value. Nothing you can do to a car will ever increase the resale value. Even if you do not drive it, resale will always go down. Maybe not as fast, but down none the less.
Now in terms of what to do while you're there. Check the Thermostat and water pump. If they haven't already been done, It'd probably be time to replace. That is assuming they are rebuilding the engine. If its a full crate engine, then that should include a new thermosat and water pump. But I'd check with your SA on that to be sure. I wouldn't want to assume anything with a repair this serious.
Other than that, I can't think of anything that would be more advantageous at this time as opposed to any other time. Perhaps someone else may have a recommendation that isnt coming me at this time.
Now in terms of what to do while you're there. Check the Thermostat and water pump. If they haven't already been done, It'd probably be time to replace. That is assuming they are rebuilding the engine. If its a full crate engine, then that should include a new thermosat and water pump. But I'd check with your SA on that to be sure. I wouldn't want to assume anything with a repair this serious.
Other than that, I can't think of anything that would be more advantageous at this time as opposed to any other time. Perhaps someone else may have a recommendation that isnt coming me at this time.
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wow, I am really confused. Sorry, OP, I can't offer any advice, but I don't understand why this is not fully covered under warranty. My understanding is that 2009's had the 4/50k warranty just like 2013's/2014's.
Burnt valve and scoring? If this motor is stock and has been serviced properly, why isn't Mini covering ALL of the expense?
Burnt valve and scoring? If this motor is stock and has been serviced properly, why isn't Mini covering ALL of the expense?
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wow, I am really confused. Sorry, OP, I can't offer any advice, but I don't understand why this is not fully covered under warranty. My understanding is that 2009's had the 4/50k warranty just like 2013's/2014's.
Burnt valve and scoring? If this motor is stock and has been serviced properly, why isn't Mini covering ALL of the expense?
Burnt valve and scoring? If this motor is stock and has been serviced properly, why isn't Mini covering ALL of the expense?
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Sorry for the bad motor
Of course engine failure at 42k isn't reasonable and I think that is why most of the cost is being covered by Mini. My receipts indicate the prior owner of the car had the entire timing chain assembly replaced in Feb 2012 @ 25k miles so I think it was fine. My indy mechanic tried to explain to me how the burnt valve could have happened from the engine running too lean, but I don't really think I'll know for sure until Mini has more time to diagnose. It was late Friday when I got the call from my SA with the news.
Mike
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Best of luck...
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Well that's what they now have. Best they will do is pick up 75% of the cost. My SA planted the seed that 90/10 might work so given that 75/25 is the best they will do, I am committed to getting the work done and selling it as quickly thereafter as I can. Mini has lost a customer for life.
I get that I am out of the time portion of my warranty (expired 18 months ago) but I am still well within the mileage part (42k vs 50k warranty) so am essentially being screwed for not driving it more.
I get that I am out of the time portion of my warranty (expired 18 months ago) but I am still well within the mileage part (42k vs 50k warranty) so am essentially being screwed for not driving it more.
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Sorry to hear we are losing you in the MINI community. It sucks that your dealer hasn't realised that at 42k (Miles?) an engine needs replacing is acceptable?
In Australia that wouldn't be acceptable at all. We have "Lemon Laws" and also expected life of the vehicle. 42k and having to replace the engine would not be acceptable at all!
BMW/MINI here would argue until they are blue in the face however. =(
In Australia that wouldn't be acceptable at all. We have "Lemon Laws" and also expected life of the vehicle. 42k and having to replace the engine would not be acceptable at all!
BMW/MINI here would argue until they are blue in the face however. =(
Last edited by user 74920; 07-09-2014 at 02:51 AM. Reason: Added first part. =)
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IF u plan to keep the car for a while
New clutch, water pump, belt tensioner and idlers and vacuum pump. No need to do coolant hoses unless really soft or hard or oil was in the coolant. Change oil every 5k miles using quality hemp filter, not paper. replace most vacuum lines under intake manifold to the vacuum control valve.
New clutch, water pump, belt tensioner and idlers and vacuum pump. No need to do coolant hoses unless really soft or hard or oil was in the coolant. Change oil every 5k miles using quality hemp filter, not paper. replace most vacuum lines under intake manifold to the vacuum control valve.
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Of course engine failure at 42k isn't reasonable and I think that is why most of the cost is being covered by Mini. My receipts indicate the prior owner of the car had the entire timing chain assembly replaced in Feb 2012 @ 25k miles so I think it was fine. My indy mechanic tried to explain to me how the burnt valve could have happened from the engine running too lean, but I don't really think I'll know for sure until Mini has more time to diagnose. It was late Friday when I got the call from my SA with the news.
I think I have beat your engine replacement record. Mine was replaced @40k, its a 09 MCSa. If you are getting an reman engine from bmw/mini, it should have a new water pump installed in the new engine.
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