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Old 07-19-2011, 07:49 AM
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Minnesota state law 20% ethanol :(

can anyone enlighten me what kind of potential damage my engine is going to take from this? the "official study" is still in progress but considering the politicians are all over this due to it's potential money making we're sure to have it regardless if it destroys everybodies cars.

inversely, what would be the affect of running ethanol-less fuel they make for classic cars and boats? it's 91 octane and a little more expensive.

sorry if these sound noobish but i'm a little worried about the government mol****** my car with substandard fuel.

http://www.mda.state.mn.us/renewable/ethanol/about.aspx
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...nol-fuel_N.htm
 
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You won't do ANY damage to your car by running ethanol free, and you should be using at least 91 octane anyway, so go for it. You should see slightly better fuel economy, too.

Many of us seek out ethanol free gas. The only thing ethanol is good for is paying farmers and politicians. I use 94 because it's the only ethanol free gas (Chevron) I can find around here.
 
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that's what i thought, we only get 91 non-oxy premium unless i go up to Brainerd international raceway which has 98 (not needed on stock setup)
 
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There are several good web-based resources with locations and other data on service stations in MN that offer the non-oxy premium fuel. The best ones seem to be associated with the sites targeting the biker clubs.

I'm up and back to the Twin Cities frequently and have all of the non-oxy options along the way mapped out. Despite the prominent warning labels on the pumps placing caveats on what engines are and are not authorized to use it, I've never once been challenged. If someone approached me, I'd just tell them that I need the non-oxy to keep from dorking up the specialized engine in my MINI. I can't envision anyone arguing with that.

I often see stations across the river in WI marketing their non-oxy with big banners. I suspect they get a lot of cross-over business.
 
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yeah, i move between st.cloud and the twin cities frequently so i'll be mapping out and saving locations in my gps.
 
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Great...it will spread.
 
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the interesting thing is that most car manufactures (chrysler, GM, and several other major car manufactures) said that e20 would void warranties due to high failure rate in emissions systems during testing.
"Our vehicles are able to handle E10, but to move to E20 there are technical issues. It's not that simple," says Ford Motor (F) spokeswoman Kristen Kinley.

General Motors (GM) spokesman Alan Adler says that in E20 tests in Australia, "40% of the vehicles sustained (catalytic converter) damage, which allowed essentially unchecked tailpipe emissions.

"We believe there's not data sufficient to prove that all vehicles will function OK with E20," says Reg Modlin, director of environmental affairs for Chrysler. "It's not a legal fuel, and it would void the warranty."
imagine that, e20, it's better for the environment until your emissions system fails 200 miles down the road. rofl
 
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