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Old 04-21-2012, 03:09 PM
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Oil Change ?

The local (over an hour away) mini dealer wants over $100 for an oil change.
I am very handy with a wrench and do all my work on my motorcycle.
My question is, removing the old oil can be done two ways it seems.
1. Put car on ramp and remove bolt at oil pan
2. Use a suction device that takes the oil out through the fill tube

Not sure where to get ramps that this little car will go up, not to mention I would be doing it myself and lining up can be fun.

I would get something like this to remove oil from the top.

http://www.amazon.com/LiquiVac-Liqui...5046093&sr=8-1

What are your thoughts?
 
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Old 04-21-2012, 03:37 PM
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I've never done the topside method. But I do have Rhino Ramps, and they work fine with this car. I actually have the heavy duty ones (12,000lb, I think) that are a half inch taller, and it still works fine. The rhino ramps have a long, not so steep ramp up, so they work with low cars. My Jetta was even worse because of the overhang. The ramps and the topsider are roughly the same price. You are going to get more use out of the ramps than you realize, so that is money better spent. Anyway, the filter is the "tough" part of a Cooper (first gen, at least) oil change. Emptying the sump is easy. I vote for the ramps. I got mine from Autozone with a coupon for $50 something (12,000lb are more expensive, but the extra height is worth it).

Edit - I just checked your link, and the ramps are quite a bit cheaper. Don't go for anything less than Rhino, in my opinion. The knockoffs aren't that much cheaper, and I've read some bad things, especially about the two piece ones.
 
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:21 PM
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I can get the rino ramps from Autozone?
I will check it out.
 
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:28 PM
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Definitely get yourself a set of Rhino Ramps - they will serve you well since you are a diy'er and can do your own maintenance. I have a lift and still use my Rhino's to do oil changes on my MINI becuase it's so quick and easy with the ramps. Well worth the money - I actually have two sets that I used to use as a poor man's lift before buying my 4 poster. I used them to hold the car up on all 4 corners to do work underneath.



 
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I do not find a need for ramps. Usually drive up on a couple of wood blocks and drain oil. Drain plug is at the back edge of the pan - T 45 or 8mm hex as I remember. An ordinary chepo drain pan from the discount store fits under. Filter is from the top,under the bonnet, and a piece of cake. I thought it was going to be a mess but was not! drop in 4.5-5 qts. of good synthetic, and put ($30 oil + $10 filter=$40) $100-$40=$60 bucks in your pocket! Plus save the time, expense, and aggravation of going to the dealer. Finally, go wash your hands and have a well deserved beer.
 
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:54 PM
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What year is your MINI? First generations need a 36mm socket to remove the oil filter housing.
 
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:06 PM
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I have been doing oil changes with out rising the car at all. My pan fits under and just undo the plug from reaching in from the front. Filter from the top no mess at all.
 
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Blocks of 2X4's or ramps are really helpful.
Changing the oil/filter is a piece of cake plus saves lots of $$$$$.
Not sold on top drain/suction method.
 
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Well here is one vote for the suction method. Think mine is called Liquivac Top-Side system. I was prepared to pull the plug but decided to use the pump as I have had success with it on my ATV and garden tractors.

I think the entire drain took about 5 minutes. Took me twice as long to get that damn oil canister to thread properly. My first time at it! Hopefully, next time will be easier.

I poured the used oil back into the 5 litre oil container used for the new fill. When the oil left in the filter is accounted for I would say that it drained the pan extremely well.

Very clean method, no ramps needed, no dirty oil trays to clean and can be used on all engines. Its a good idea to warm up the engine first to get a quick drain but I do that using either method.
 
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Originally Posted by phoxx47
I do not find a need for ramps. Usually drive up on a couple of wood blocks and drain oil...
I did that for years. It works fine. But with the 12,000lb rhinos, I can scoot under there on my dogbone style creeper for other tasks / inspections. I use them quite a bit, and when the wheels don't need to come off, they are safer than jackstands, as well as easier.
 
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Originally Posted by Eggburp
... Took me twice as long to get that damn oil canister to thread properly.
Don't feel bad. I've done dozens of oil changes on canister filter equipped cars. I've had two MGBs, two big six BMWs, and a VW TDI (closest in design to the MINI filter). I thought I was the canister expert, but my R50 humbled me twice.
 
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Went to autozone and the 8000 lb Rino ramps were on sale for $25.
I also ordered a service manual, so I am all set.
 
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I bought some Rhino Ramps and used this tutorial for changing my oil and it was the first time I ever changed oil in my own car.

Here's the tutorial: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-pictures.html
 
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Rhino's rock........ I use them on my 3/4 ton truck too. Great for engine bay work to get low cars up to an ergonomic heigth. Remember half the oil change happens on the topside. If I did the sucker method I would still use ramps.

Although I did change the oil and filter myself at 5 months and 5,000 miles..... Since ours will average under 10,000 miles a year (the car it replaced averaged 6,000 a year).......
I plan to start doing a 6 month oil only change - then have the dealer do the full meal deal pre-paid aka "free" oil change at 12 months. I will continue that when I have to pay at the service, rather than built into the vehicle purchase price for the "free" future services.

That way I don't have to mess with that funky oil filter which certainly is only filtering better at 6 months and can do 12 months easy.
 

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whats the easiest way to remove the filter from an '06?
I cant get the filter housing off but i found this one here...
http://www.minicarparts.net/Parts/W136.cfm

whats ur best tip and where do u get ur filters from?
 
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:04 PM
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i use jacks. I got them at auto zone. But my dealer only charged $50. So it is basically the same price as doing myself. So i don't do it myself anymore. Another thing you should know is getting to your oil filter can be a little tricky. At least on my year.
 
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:11 PM
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i know, i did an oil change last night and I couldnt get the filter housing off. i just changed the oil, thats why I need to get the right tool to do it next time.
 
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