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General MINI TalkShared experiences, motoring minutes, and other general MINI-related discussion that applies to all MINIs, regardless of model, year or trim.
The 2013 changes could have saved us a few $100 as we want the iPod and don't care about the Sirius. Though they're not starting JCW production until later in the year, so we'd have a very long wait.
jcw package now includes cloth seats with a red trim. was kinda bummed about that one cause i had to get leatherette with my 2012 order cause cloth wasn't available with white silver for some reason
I could have ordered a '13 configured exactly the same as what I have (w/ black leather/cloth seats because the red/black are no longer available) and it would have been $50 less than what my '12 was...
But it was definitely worth the $50 to get my seats!
I went with a 12 because I did not want a new engine with new problems. I'll let you guys test out the problems and by a new mini at the end of the next model change out.
I went with a 12 because I did not want a new engine with new problems. I'll let you guys test out the problems and by a new mini at the end of the next model change out.
The F series isn't launching until next year. The 13s are still the R series. I was worried about the same thing when the dealer told me mine would be a 13 but it's not the case.
Although, from what I've been reading about the new platform; it sounds really really nice.
Taking the exact same car, one a 2012 and the other a 2013, the 2012 will be worth ~$750 -- $1,000 less in 4 years than a 2013. So long as you don't pay a bunch more, waiting for the '13 makes financial sense. But armed with the numbers, you should be able to get the dealer to discount the '12 by a comparable amount.
Taking the exact same car, one a 2012 and the other a 2013, the 2012 will be worth ~$750 -- $1,000 less in 4 years than a 2013. So long as you don't pay a bunch more, waiting for the '13 makes financial sense. But armed with the numbers, you should be able to get the dealer to discount the '12 by a comparable amount.
How can I back up those depreciation numbers for the dealer? I'll be happy to buy a '12 if they make the price adjustment for depreciation and bluetooth which is now standard. But I'm getting B.S. like "Mini's hold their value really well & we have such a low inventory these will sell fast." (Actually - there are lots of 2012's available in SoCal!)
With any car deal, if you don't get a deal you like be willing to walk. Mini of Morristown literally ran after me into the parking lot last year. You can always go back and take a deal that was offered earlier - no shame in that.
How can I back up those depreciation numbers for the dealer? I'll be happy to buy a '12 if they make the price adjustment for depreciation and bluetooth which is now standard. But I'm getting B.S. like "Mini's hold their value really well & we have such a low inventory these will sell fast." (Actually - there are lots of 2012's available in SoCal!)
Thanks for your advice...
Go to KBB.com and do a price check on two Minis equipped the same, one a 2008, the other a 2009. Be sure you compare the same model, same milage.
I went with a 12 because I did not want a new engine with new problems. I'll let you guys test out the problems and by a new mini at the end of the next model change out.
The 2013 had the same N18 motor as the 2012. The F56 2014 had a new problematic motor. The 2013 had the bugs from 2011-12 worked out. Best year for the Gen2 N18 is... 2013