2013 GP Facts and Myths

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #51  
Old 04-23-2013 | 07:31 PM
toyopet's Avatar
toyopet
4th Gear
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 301
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by rum4
Is it true that the Euro versions got 218hp? I know we have 211. If the Euro version has 218hp wonder wif it is possible to get that extra 7hp in the US cars?
US models could be underrated. I test drove a GP and a regular JCW back to back and there is no way the GP has only 3hp more.

Also, both exhaust tones were very mild. I didn't hear any pops or burbles, and I was driving with the windows down.
 
  #52  
Old 04-24-2013 | 03:15 AM
rum4's Avatar
rum4
Banned
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,173
Likes: 1
My wifes JCW and my GP have pops and burbles with the sport button on. My GP has a nice note without it on too.
 
  #53  
Old 04-24-2013 | 12:24 PM
solskjaer1999's Avatar
solskjaer1999
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
Has anyone buried the nose of the GP into the pavement with the 6 piston brakes? I'm curious how the brake bias is set up and if the rear brakes are beefed-up to compensate. I think 6 piston may be overkill for a MINI.
 
  #54  
Old 04-24-2013 | 01:06 PM
JackMac's Avatar
JackMac
6th Gear
iTrader: (23)
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,591
Likes: 310
From: Phillyburbia
GP2 has standard JCW rear brakes. The 6-pot front brakes are insane. The first time you touch them, you will know what I mean.

With front weight bias and an über stiff suspension, I don't think anyone will be doing a nose dive into the asphault even under full braking. Just watch that your head doesn't go into the steering wheel while attempting

One other tidbit - the front headlight washers are blanks. No squirters under those covers.
 
  #55  
Old 04-28-2013 | 06:52 PM
Drewbrese's Avatar
Drewbrese
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
From: Boston
Adjusted the ride height on my GP. There was about 10mm of threads below the factory ride height setting. I lowered my car the maximum amount and it looks great. Not to low, not to high, just right. No pics, ran out of daylight today.
 
  #56  
Old 05-03-2013 | 03:13 AM
robbo mcs's Avatar
robbo mcs
4th Gear
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 420
Likes: 17
The GP operates only as a single phase coolant thermostat whereas all other minis operate dual phase.

A normal mini runs around with the thermostat operating at 105C (221F) when driving normally. This is optimal for emissions and economy. When under extreme driving conditions the ecu opens a second phase at 85C (185F) which is optimal for engine power. In a normal mini this happens if you are on the track, or doing multiple hard accelerations etc.

On the GP the thermostat permanently operates at 85C, even cruising around. Even when standing still the fan kicks in at 87C. This is a cool feature, and optimises the engine for power, rather than economy and emissions.

Note : the thermostat part number is physically the same as a standard car. The higher temp thermostat is still physically there, but the ECU is operating it permanently in the lower temp mode.
 
  #57  
Old 05-03-2013 | 09:54 AM
jrs66's Avatar
jrs66
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 267
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Drewbrese
Adjusted the ride height on my GP. There was about 10mm of threads below the factory ride height setting. I lowered my car the maximum amount and it looks great. Not to low, not to high, just right. No pics, ran out of daylight today.
Is the ride much stiffer?
 
  #58  
Old 05-03-2013 | 10:01 AM
Drewbrese's Avatar
Drewbrese
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
From: Boston
Originally Posted by jrs66
Is the ride much stiffer?
The ride height adjustment is adjustable, not spring preload, shock compression or rebound. So, no the ride has not changed.
 
  #59  
Old 05-03-2013 | 12:33 PM
Airborne Ranger's Avatar
Airborne Ranger
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: Lake Tapps
Originally Posted by robbo mcs
The GP operates only as a single phase coolant thermostat whereas all other minis operate dual phase.

A normal mini runs around with the thermostat operating at 105C (221F) when driving normally. This is optimal for emissions and economy. When under extreme driving conditions the ecu opens a second phase at 85C (185F) which is optimal for engine power. In a normal mini this happens if you are on the track, or doing multiple hard accelerations etc.

On the GP the thermostat permanently operates at 85C, even cruising around. Even when standing still the fan kicks in at 87C. This is a cool feature, and optimises the engine for power, rather than economy and emissions.

Note : the thermostat part number is physically the same as a standard car. The higher temp thermostat is still physically there, but the ECU is operating it permanently in the lower temp mode.
That is awesome. thanks for sharing
 
  #60  
Old 05-04-2013 | 01:42 AM
robbo mcs's Avatar
robbo mcs
4th Gear
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 420
Likes: 17
Out of interest I took out the cover for the rear seat cargo area today. Took around 2 minutes to remove, very easy and easy to replace.

It is heavy!!! 5kg (11 lbs).

Removing the polystyrene compartment underneath is a bit more tricky. It weighs virtually northing.

Also removed the red cargo bar. Took around 2 minutes to remove, and again it is easily reversible. Not very heavy at all, 1kg total (2.2 lbs). It has been said that this bar is cosmetic only. It does have some strut bar type effect. The brackets it fits into are pretty beefy.
 
  #61  
Old 05-04-2013 | 01:49 AM
robbo mcs's Avatar
robbo mcs
4th Gear
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 420
Likes: 17
Measured the ride height of the car as it came from the dealer. It is very high! especially compared to my R56 JCW race car.

Out of interest I lowered the coilovers to the minimum front and back. The fronts are very easy to adjust, takes around 2 minutes to adjust once you have the wheels off. The rears were a PITA! Pretty tight in there with all the suspension and brake bits and pieces.

Also I tried fitting on my R112 wheels, which fitted with 15mm spacers at front and no spacers at the rear. Currently on these wheels I have the same kumho ecsta 700/70A tyres but these are in 215/45/17 vs the 215/40/17 that comes with the GP. They fit OK, and fill up the wheel well a littlle more.

Here are some pics of the cars lowered on both the stock 215/40/17 and on the 215/45/17.

The car is still a little high for me, especially the rear.

Name:  P1030127_zps6a1ae4c7.jpg
Views: 226
Size:  518.1 KB

Name:  P1030118_zps625d3b5d.jpg
Views: 234
Size:  267.4 KB

Robbo
 

Last edited by robbo mcs; 05-04-2013 at 01:56 AM.
  #62  
Old 05-13-2013 | 05:42 PM
Airborne Ranger's Avatar
Airborne Ranger
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: Lake Tapps
Originally Posted by robbo mcs
Measured the ride height of the car as it came from the dealer. It is very high! especially compared to my R56 JCW race car.

Out of interest I lowered the coilovers to the minimum front and back. The fronts are very easy to adjust, takes around 2 minutes to adjust once you have the wheels off. The rears were a PITA! Pretty tight in there with all the suspension and brake bits and pieces.

Also I tried fitting on my R112 wheels, which fitted with 15mm spacers at front and no spacers at the rear. Currently on these wheels I have the same kumho ecsta 700/70A tyres but these are in 215/45/17 vs the 215/40/17 that comes with the GP. They fit OK, and fill up the wheel well a littlle more.

Here are some pics of the cars lowered on both the stock 215/40/17 and on the 215/45/17.

The car is still a little high for me, especially the rear.





Robbo
yeah it was high for me too- I since changed out the coilovers for H&R RSS cups- mainly for more height adjustability.

here it was lowered all the way down on the OEM's *note* since it was on my driveway the rears appear lower than the fronts- on a lever ground they match the fronts height...
Name:  gpf_zps10b95c89.jpg
Views: 260
Size:  133.2 KB

here it is now:
Name:  hr1_zpsdb0f197c.jpg
Views: 205
Size:  121.8 KB
Name:  hr2_zpsa9c27e1f.jpg
Views: 245
Size:  112.3 KB


For another FACT: the OEM coilovers are backwards compatible and work on an 09 MCS- direct bolt on- no issues whatsoever
 
  #63  
Old 05-13-2013 | 06:06 PM
Braminator's Avatar
Braminator
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,242
Likes: 51
From: Wherever she takes me.
Beautiful. Did you sell those coilovers?
 
  #64  
Old 05-13-2013 | 07:17 PM
Airborne Ranger's Avatar
Airborne Ranger
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: Lake Tapps
Originally Posted by Braminator
Beautiful. Did you sell those coilovers?
Yeah to Kfmuller..he's very happy with them.
 
  #65  
Old 05-13-2013 | 07:42 PM
Braminator's Avatar
Braminator
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,242
Likes: 51
From: Wherever she takes me.
Yeah to Kfmuller..he's very happy with them.
Shocked, but they went to a good home.
 
  #66  
Old 05-31-2013 | 08:25 PM
masternut's Avatar
masternut
4th Gear
iTrader: (-1)
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 402
Likes: 5
From: Englewood, OH
Originally Posted by Airborne Ranger
yeah it was high for me too- I since changed out the coilovers for H&R RSS cups- mainly for more height adjustability.

here it was lowered all the way down on the OEM's *note* since it was on my driveway the rears appear lower than the fronts- on a lever ground they match the fronts height...


here it is now:




For another FACT: the OEM coilovers are backwards compatible and work on an 09 MCS- direct bolt on- no issues whatsoever
Those wheels are awesome - Rays?
 
  #67  
Old 05-31-2013 | 09:06 PM
Airborne Ranger's Avatar
Airborne Ranger
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: Lake Tapps
thanks and yes, they are Volk/Rays TE37's

Also another recent factoid...

The rain sensor/automatic windshield wiper button only activates a "slow timed" wiper action and NOT automatic like all other Coopers with the automatic wiper option. didnt think they came with that button if they did not have the automatic option...
 
  #68  
Old 06-11-2013 | 08:11 AM
roadrunner255's Avatar
roadrunner255
2nd Gear
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 123
Likes: 6
From: Central Texas
FYi,

With stock Kumho' speedo is off by about 4 MPH, higher than actual.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Doc Pain
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
4
03-10-2021 04:50 AM
PsychoRallye
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
21
02-17-2019 06:08 AM
Willafb
R55 :: Clubman Talk (2008+)
4
11-06-2015 08:08 PM
fkrowland
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
5
09-30-2015 10:30 AM



Quick Reply: 2013 GP Facts and Myths



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:20 AM.