How To R56 Front Crank Seal Replacement Story (First Post)
#26
Ugh, so my new corteco seal is leaking as you stated yours did above, took it all apart again and now I need to get another seal, I will see if I can find a fel-pro.
Question... what is the pvc tool you made above, I know the white part is a 2" coupler, but do you have another piece inside that, the black piece or is that part of the gasket?
Also, how did you manage to get around that silver line (is that an AC line) that's in the way to use the pvc? Can it be moved a little out of the way somehow?
I used a pick to get the seal out and will be doing that once again.
Thanks for the help!
Question... what is the pvc tool you made above, I know the white part is a 2" coupler, but do you have another piece inside that, the black piece or is that part of the gasket?
Also, how did you manage to get around that silver line (is that an AC line) that's in the way to use the pvc? Can it be moved a little out of the way somehow?
I used a pick to get the seal out and will be doing that once again.
Thanks for the help!
#28
Ugh, so my new corteco seal is leaking as you stated yours did above, took it all apart again and now I need to get another seal, I will see if I can find a fel-pro.
Question... what is the pvc tool you made above, I know the white part is a 2" coupler, but do you have another piece inside that, the black piece or is that part of the gasket?
Also, how did you manage to get around that silver line (is that an AC line) that's in the way to use the pvc? Can it be moved a little out of the way somehow?
I used a pick to get the seal out and will be doing that once again.
Thanks for the help!
Question... what is the pvc tool you made above, I know the white part is a 2" coupler, but do you have another piece inside that, the black piece or is that part of the gasket?
Also, how did you manage to get around that silver line (is that an AC line) that's in the way to use the pvc? Can it be moved a little out of the way somehow?
I used a pick to get the seal out and will be doing that once again.
Thanks for the help!
1. I got my money back from ECS Tuning for the peice of ***** Corteco seal. ECS Tuning, stop selling that garbage!
2. Read my post more carefully.The black cup is a disposable guide that FELPRO provides with the seal. The SKU of the coupler is shown.
3. Well you're only using a short PVC coupler so, AS PER THE PICTURE (HINT HINT), you can tap directly on the on the PVC coupler very very lightly to seat the seal and the AC line isn't in the way of PVC coupler. A long section of 2 inch tubing attached to the coupler will however not work so well because the AC line forces you in at an angle which you don't want. You could even use your fist to tap on the coupler, so the AC line should not get in your way. The AC line, has some movement inherent, so don't worry about shifting it around a little bit.
Last edited by Lex2008; 11-10-2015 at 08:38 AM.
#30
i am still looking for the Felpro seal in my Country ( Germany). In germany we have other brands and they dont have this black pcv coupler. I hope i can find the Felpro Seal when not i have 2 Possibilities: Going to the Mini Garage and they change the seal or i order the Seal online from America and i do it by myself Lex2008 did you checked a second time if your Felpro seal is not leak out?
#31
Nobody locally here in VT can even order the front crank seal, I typically order from Pelican Parts, the Fel-Pro is hard to find.
Thanks Lex, good info, I appreciate it! Now I have to wait for a new seal and try again, the good news is it took me like 15 mins to get the car on stands, the belt off and pulley back off this time now I know what I am doing.
Thanks Lex, good info, I appreciate it! Now I have to wait for a new seal and try again, the good news is it took me like 15 mins to get the car on stands, the belt off and pulley back off this time now I know what I am doing.
#34
Nobody locally here in VT can even order the front crank seal, I typically order from Pelican Parts, the Fel-Pro is hard to find.
Thanks Lex, good info, I appreciate it! Now I have to wait for a new seal and try again, the good news is it took me like 15 mins to get the car on stands, the belt off and pulley back off this time now I know what I am doing.
Thanks Lex, good info, I appreciate it! Now I have to wait for a new seal and try again, the good news is it took me like 15 mins to get the car on stands, the belt off and pulley back off this time now I know what I am doing.
http://www.amazon.com/Fel-Pro-TCS46127-Crankshaft-Seal-Set/dp/B00CCK8UL2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447198794&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=felp-ro+tcs+46127
Pelican parts is in bloody California. 5 days MINIMUM to get anything from them on east coast by the time they box and ship it.
Ya you become a pro after like 2 tries at this crap. I bought a 21mm ratching box wrench so that I never ever have to put the front end in service mode just to engage the serpentine belt tensioner!
#35
i am still looking for the Felpro seal in my Country ( Germany). In germany we have other brands and they dont have this black pcv coupler. I hope i can find the Felpro Seal when not i have 2 Possibilities: Going to the Mini Garage and they change the seal or i order the Seal online from America and i do it by myself Lex2008 did you checked a second time if your Felpro seal is not leak out?
#37
#39
We had very few issues with the Corteco version , I will contact them and let them know, thanks for the info.
On the Install of the PTFE seal some things for watch for, I have attached the MINI TIS info, just says the special tool and light oil, but not to touch it as it will damage. The tool looks to help insert it corrcetly. We carry the Elring version also.
All i can think of is the Corteco seal was tapping in and not press in like you did the Felpro. Let me know what you think looking at the TIS.
On the Install of the PTFE seal some things for watch for, I have attached the MINI TIS info, just says the special tool and light oil, but not to touch it as it will damage. The tool looks to help insert it corrcetly. We carry the Elring version also.
All i can think of is the Corteco seal was tapping in and not press in like you did the Felpro. Let me know what you think looking at the TIS.
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Last edited by ECSTuning; 11-12-2015 at 11:53 AM.
#41
I will get them for you.
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#43
I'm interested in the tool as well, I just spent the weekend trying to deal with this stupid leak, the Elring Klinger seal was going on nicely until I pushed it in to far with the PVC piece, that went in the trash, then I tried again, very carefully with another Corteco seal, took it for a spin and it's leaking... so now I just ordered two Fel-Pro seals on ebay, I hope I can get the Fel-Pro in properly. I am also wondering if I cam not putting the seal in far enough, does the Fel-Pro come with a piece that puts it in flush at the right depth, I think that's what the black piece you have in the image above but not sure. Ugh!
#44
No, the Felpro guide doesnt set depth, it just helps you guide the inner face of the seal smoothly over the end of the crankshaft.
The seal needs to be set flush wit the engine block.
I checked my Felpro seal this weekend. Its not leaking. But maybe only 150 miles have passed. Too early to tell perhaps.
The seal needs to be set flush wit the engine block.
I checked my Felpro seal this weekend. Its not leaking. But maybe only 150 miles have passed. Too early to tell perhaps.
#46
I need to replace my front crank seal on my 2010 Clubman S. I can get the 30mm wrench on the belt tension nut from the top, but I can't move it. I can't even get it on the nut from the bottom. The Bentley book says I have to remove the passenger headlight and the hood release bracket/support. That seems like a lot of work just to get the accessory belt off. Anyone have any better ideas?
#47
I need to replace my front crank seal on my 2010 Clubman S. I can get the 30mm wrench on the belt tension nut from the top, but I can't move it. I can't even get it on the nut from the bottom. The Bentley book says I have to remove the passenger headlight and the hood release bracket/support. That seems like a lot of work just to get the accessory belt off. Anyone have any better ideas?
30mm ratcheting box wrench. Not a very common wrench unfortunately.$$$.
#48
In response to vistaracer...
I do!
There is a simple trick to release the tension on the belt. Its free and easy and takes about 30 seconds to lock the tensioner.
Here we go...
Get a 1"x2" piece of wood about 18" long. Pad the end with cloth of cardboard. Feed it up BEHIND the belt until it rests on the UNDERSIDE of the tensioner. Slide your jack under the wooden rod and slowly raise the tensioner. The belt will quickly lose tension and then you simply push the spring loaded pin across. Removal is just the reverse.
Even better, the rod makes the perfect tool to tap in your new seal!!
I do!
There is a simple trick to release the tension on the belt. Its free and easy and takes about 30 seconds to lock the tensioner.
Here we go...
Get a 1"x2" piece of wood about 18" long. Pad the end with cloth of cardboard. Feed it up BEHIND the belt until it rests on the UNDERSIDE of the tensioner. Slide your jack under the wooden rod and slowly raise the tensioner. The belt will quickly lose tension and then you simply push the spring loaded pin across. Removal is just the reverse.
Even better, the rod makes the perfect tool to tap in your new seal!!
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#49
In response to vistaracer...
I do!
There is a simple trick to release the tension on the belt. Its free and easy and takes about 30 seconds to lock the tensioner.
Here we go...
Get a 1"x2" piece of wood about 18" long. Pad the end with cloth of cardboard. Feed it up BEHIND the belt until it rests on the UNDERSIDE of the tensioner. Slide your jack under the wooden rod and slowly raise the tensioner. The belt will quickly lose tension and then you simply push the spring loaded pin across. Removal is just the reverse.
Even better, the rod makes the perfect tool to tap in your new seal!!
I do!
There is a simple trick to release the tension on the belt. Its free and easy and takes about 30 seconds to lock the tensioner.
Here we go...
Get a 1"x2" piece of wood about 18" long. Pad the end with cloth of cardboard. Feed it up BEHIND the belt until it rests on the UNDERSIDE of the tensioner. Slide your jack under the wooden rod and slowly raise the tensioner. The belt will quickly lose tension and then you simply push the spring loaded pin across. Removal is just the reverse.
Even better, the rod makes the perfect tool to tap in your new seal!!
#50
In response to vistaracer...
I do!
There is a simple trick to release the tension on the belt. Its free and easy and takes about 30 seconds to lock the tensioner.
Here we go...
Get a 1"x2" piece of wood about 18" long. Pad the end with cloth of cardboard. Feed it up BEHIND the belt until it rests on the UNDERSIDE of the tensioner. Slide your jack under the wooden rod and slowly raise the tensioner. The belt will quickly lose tension and then you simply push the spring loaded pin across. Removal is just the reverse.
Even better, the rod makes the perfect tool to tap in your new seal!!
I do!
There is a simple trick to release the tension on the belt. Its free and easy and takes about 30 seconds to lock the tensioner.
Here we go...
Get a 1"x2" piece of wood about 18" long. Pad the end with cloth of cardboard. Feed it up BEHIND the belt until it rests on the UNDERSIDE of the tensioner. Slide your jack under the wooden rod and slowly raise the tensioner. The belt will quickly lose tension and then you simply push the spring loaded pin across. Removal is just the reverse.
Even better, the rod makes the perfect tool to tap in your new seal!!