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Coast to Coast Autopower Roll Bar Install

Recent install of an Autopower Street-Sport roll bar.

Turned out very clean. Working on a rear seat delete currently.

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Have any pics of mounting points before panels were installed.
 
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I'd put a bit of black trim around the opening for a more pro, clean-looking install, but other than that VERY tasty...
 
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So thats what an interior looks like...
 
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I've thought about adding trim. Hole would need to be enlarged a bit but we'll see. I don't have pictures of the mounting points. I will take some the next time I have access to that area. Ditched the bolt / nut method. Used high strength nutserts and bolted from the outside in with no need to hold a nut in place.
 
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Thanks- will what for your pics.
 
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If that is how clean an install you can do on a bar, when I am ready for my install you get the job . Nice and clean.
 
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How hard was it to make it that clean? That looks amazing.
 
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If that is how clean an install you can do on a bar, when I am ready for my install you get the job . Nice and clean.
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How hard was it to make it that clean? That looks amazing.
Thanks for the good words. It really is not an easy job but where there's a will there's a way right? Requires a good amount of patience. Cardboard tubing cut to length served to mark the exact location of the holes to be cut. Tolerances are so tight on the bar so you must align both panels and insert the side bars simultaneously.

The end result is worth the added aggravation in my opinion as I really did not want to go about it with the slit method.
 

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I am glad someone took the patience to do it this way Great Job!
 
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Best roll bar install I have seen. COR BLIMEYS is good but this is even cleaner.
 
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Will the harnesses attach to the bar?

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very very nice! I wish i had a reason to do this...

can we see more pics!? maybe from the side... or the front...
really nice!
 
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Originally Posted by littlehandegan
Will the harnesses attach to the bar?

Jack
The horizontal bar just below the belt openings in the back of the seat is a harness bar. Unless the front side of the harness bar has tabs for a harness they would be wrapped around the bar. For proper mounting a set of belt guides should be welded on the bar or there is a possibility the harness could slide.

Harness Belt Guides

 
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Were there pre-made guides you ordered or were these fabricated? I know this is a dumb question, but how'd you get the placement right? Did you test-fit the cage & cross-member, then powdercoat & install? cliff@coasttocoastusa, the install looks great - love the red color.
 
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Guides were fabricated. Nothing fancy needed, it's just a guide, no real stresses are placed on those parts.

Placement is easy. Just use a straight edge and come back from the belt pass through in the seat. The main issue is that the outboard belt ends up on the curve of the harness bar and in an incident could slide around that bend letting tension off.

We had to add the guides on my setup. Had to grind off the finish. weld and refinish. It was welded and rattle canned in place. Removing the cage for the guides would have been silly.
 
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Looks awesome, Gnatster - nice work! If I ever put in a cage, I'll call you for guidance.
 
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Oh yea, So what is the price for an install?
 
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Originally Posted by gnatster
Guides were fabricated. Nothing fancy needed, it's just a guide, no real stresses are placed on those parts.

Placement is easy. Just use a straight edge and come back from the belt pass through in the seat. The main issue is that the outboard belt ends up on the curve of the harness bar and in an incident could slide around that bend letting tension off.

We had to add the guides on my setup. Had to grind off the finish. weld and refinish. It was welded and rattle canned in place. Removing the cage for the guides would have been silly.
Sweet. My Autopower bar is being fabricated as we speak, so once Dr.Steve (Custom Mini Shop) has it ready for install we'll post our pictures. I want to replicate cliff@coasttocoastusa's rear panel work - that's the cleanest install I've seen.
 
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Hey guys...I just had a question that my dad wanted me to post...
I told him I did not think it was safe, but I will get your guys' info to add to mine...

Is it SAFE it re-route the rear support bars from the top of the fender well to the place where the rear seats have their latch?



He wanted to place the supports on here so that we did not put any holes in my interior, but I would feel more comfortable with them in the intended location...

If it is safe that would be a great solution...but please let me know the facts...
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Also, Nate...if you have anywhere that is a good source for Mini specific 6pt. harness install instructions I would greatly appreciate it
I have been checking Schroth and others...they have generic info, but I was wondering if you had some specifics since you installed the TeamTech's...

Anyone with harness info can email me at chris.vogelsong@gmail.com

Thanks to everyone.
 
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Mine were installed by a race shop. The generic instructions show the angles that need to be used to be safe. You can't go wrong with lots of measuring and fitting before drilling. They had me sit in the car and they crawled around me, no mean feat, to measure. The hard part is the anti-submarine belts. All the rest is easy. The shoulder belts wrap on the harness bar. The lap belts can be connected to the same mounting points as the current one. All the belt makers have adapter plates for this.

Driver side lap belt mounting.

 
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Thanks Nate I am working on the A-Pillar, Roll bar, and Harnesses

Any word on if the alternate mount for rear supports would be safe?
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisMCS04
Hey guys...I just had a question that my dad wanted me to post...
I told him I did not think it was safe, but I will get your guys' info to add to mine...

Is it SAFE it re-route the rear support bars from the top of the fender well to the place where the rear seats have their latch?

He wanted to place the supports on here so that we did not put any holes in my interior, but I would feel more comfortable with them in the intended location...

If it is safe that would be a great solution...but please let me know the facts...
Thanks.
I'd caution against that. Two Reasons:

The area where the seat latches is not as strong as you think. You can wiggle the end some, and it's only held in with a few spot welds. It's one of the reasons I've never thought the rear bar some folks sell has much use.

You'll need to cut and replace the legs of the bar. Might as well make your own custom at that point.

Far from me to question Auto Power's engineering and I don't know the structure of MINI at the pooint they use to be an expert but I think they chose a poor location to mount the rear legs to the body. Lower down where the unibody has "frame rail" type structure I think would be stronger and is one of the reasons I choose a Safety Devices bar.
 
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Thanks for your insight Nate It is always appreciated. I will let my father know(he trusts AutoPwer, but just wanted the interior to take less of a beating--to me when I am done with the car the interior will be the last of my concerns)

BTW, The gauge pod is coming along well know that I have the time to work on it
 
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