Interior/Exterior Driving lights only with high beams?
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Driving lights only with high beams?
New 05 MCSC with dealer installed driving lights.
Switch under dash only activates on/off with high beams.
Can't switch be programmed to activate driving lights without high beams?
MA said no, then I drove off....
I want to turn them on and off whenever.
05 MCSC, HB, sport, premium, cold, black stripes, chrome ext, driving lights, alloy patina, space cloth.
Switch under dash only activates on/off with high beams.
Can't switch be programmed to activate driving lights without high beams?
MA said no, then I drove off....
I want to turn them on and off whenever.
05 MCSC, HB, sport, premium, cold, black stripes, chrome ext, driving lights, alloy patina, space cloth.
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you shoulda just gotten a set of aftermarket ones that are completely independent of the factory lighting. i wouldnt ever put those on my car just because its a hokey factory setup and all factory setups only allow lights to be turned on with certin other lights on....
only ones id ever buy are the factory fogs, just cause the integrate with the factory body...
you could always just rewire them.
it isnt rocket science....
only ones id ever buy are the factory fogs, just cause the integrate with the factory body...
you could always just rewire them.
it isnt rocket science....
Last edited by mbabischkin; 03-24-2005 at 07:26 PM. Reason: Language
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Originally Posted by rednwhitecooper
you shoulda just gotten a set of aftermarket ones that are completely independent of the factory lighting. i wouldnt ever put those on my car just because its a hokey factory setup and all factory setups only allow lights to be turned on with certin other lights on....
And watch your language on the boards...
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From: Neenah, WI
You need GBMini's RLR (Rally Light Relay): http://www.gbmini.net/MINIcircuit/RLR.shtml
He is the same guy that created the auto-up window circuit.
He is the same guy that created the auto-up window circuit.
#10
OK. Now I'm really confused. Since mine work with either the regular headlights as well as the high beams, and the rally lights were dealer installed, how come I keep reading that you need a special set-up or switch to override the pre-programmed "only work with the high beams on" setting?!?
If my bumbling-azz dealer did it by accident, doesn't that mean it's possible for the average layman to override?
If my bumbling-azz dealer did it by accident, doesn't that mean it's possible for the average layman to override?
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From: Neenah, WI
Cherry - yes, anyone could override the typical dealer driving light wiring. Basicly you just need to pull power for the lights from a different location.
Unless something changed for 05, if your driving lights can turn on with your low beams, then your lights aren't wired as MINI intended. It's possible that your dealer did that on purpose thinking it would be a service to their customers. It's also possible they just did a poor job wiring them up. I doubt it happened by accident, I would say it was either intentional or due to incompetence.
Unless something changed for 05, if your driving lights can turn on with your low beams, then your lights aren't wired as MINI intended. It's possible that your dealer did that on purpose thinking it would be a service to their customers. It's also possible they just did a poor job wiring them up. I doubt it happened by accident, I would say it was either intentional or due to incompetence.
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Originally Posted by early_apex
It's possible that your dealer did that on purpose thinking it would be a service to their customers. It's also possible they just did a poor job wiring them up. I doubt it happened by accident, I would say it was either intentional or due to incompetence.
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You need GBMini's RLR (Rally Light Relay): http://www.gbmini.net/MINIcircuit/RLR.shtml
Thanks. That looks great. Will probably do.
Thanks. That looks great. Will probably do.
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To play devil's advocate, I don't understand the desire to wire driving lights to work with anything BUT the high beams.
I have the Alta rally style light bar, and those IPF 6" lights are very bright and far-reaching beams, and would most certainly blind oncoming traffic, no matter HOW you have them aimed. I'm sure most other driving lights are the same in that regard; they're designed to turn night into day.
Now I'm all for as much light as you can possible throw out there for better visibility, but you MUST consider oncoming traffic! So it is natural that you wire them up in tandem with your high beams, like the MINI driving lamps are wired by the dealer.
There is no simpler way to switch on and off your driving lights quicker than by using your high beam stalk. Your hand already knows exactly where that stalk is, and you can access it with both hands still on the wheel for maximum safety during spirited night drives.
Most aftermarket switches are mounted too far away from the steering wheel to turn off your supernova's quickly and easily in the event of an oncoming car. Not to mention, I believe I've read in other posts, that it is actually illegal in lots of states to have auxilliary driving lights wired to work independantly of the high-beams...
I have the Alta rally style light bar, and those IPF 6" lights are very bright and far-reaching beams, and would most certainly blind oncoming traffic, no matter HOW you have them aimed. I'm sure most other driving lights are the same in that regard; they're designed to turn night into day.
Now I'm all for as much light as you can possible throw out there for better visibility, but you MUST consider oncoming traffic! So it is natural that you wire them up in tandem with your high beams, like the MINI driving lamps are wired by the dealer.
There is no simpler way to switch on and off your driving lights quicker than by using your high beam stalk. Your hand already knows exactly where that stalk is, and you can access it with both hands still on the wheel for maximum safety during spirited night drives.
Most aftermarket switches are mounted too far away from the steering wheel to turn off your supernova's quickly and easily in the event of an oncoming car. Not to mention, I believe I've read in other posts, that it is actually illegal in lots of states to have auxilliary driving lights wired to work independantly of the high-beams...
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Originally Posted by jonnieoh
To play devil's advocate, I don't understand the desire to wire driving lights to work with anything BUT the high beams.
I have the Alta rally style light bar, and those IPF 6" lights are very bright and far-reaching beams, and would most certainly blind oncoming traffic, no matter HOW you have them aimed. I'm sure most other driving lights are the same in that regard; they're designed to turn night into day.
Now I'm all for as much light as you can possible throw out there for better visibility, but you MUST consider oncoming traffic! So it is natural that you wire them up in tandem with your high beams, like the MINI driving lamps are wired by the dealer.
There is no simpler way to switch on and off your driving lights quicker than by using your high beam stalk. Your hand already knows exactly where that stalk is, and you can access it with both hands still on the wheel for maximum safety during spirited night drives.
Most aftermarket switches are mounted too far away from the steering wheel to turn off your supernova's quickly and easily in the event of an oncoming car. Not to mention, I believe I've read in other posts, that it is actually illegal in lots of states to have auxilliary driving lights wired to work independantly of the high-beams...
I have the Alta rally style light bar, and those IPF 6" lights are very bright and far-reaching beams, and would most certainly blind oncoming traffic, no matter HOW you have them aimed. I'm sure most other driving lights are the same in that regard; they're designed to turn night into day.
Now I'm all for as much light as you can possible throw out there for better visibility, but you MUST consider oncoming traffic! So it is natural that you wire them up in tandem with your high beams, like the MINI driving lamps are wired by the dealer.
There is no simpler way to switch on and off your driving lights quicker than by using your high beam stalk. Your hand already knows exactly where that stalk is, and you can access it with both hands still on the wheel for maximum safety during spirited night drives.
Most aftermarket switches are mounted too far away from the steering wheel to turn off your supernova's quickly and easily in the event of an oncoming car. Not to mention, I believe I've read in other posts, that it is actually illegal in lots of states to have auxilliary driving lights wired to work independantly of the high-beams...
Is it worth potentially killing someone just to "look cool"?
God, I hope not.
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I had my driving lights re-wired to work independently of other lights... I also ditched the crappy, 5 cent, chinese-made plastic switch. I don't know about anyone else but I thought it gave pretty poor user-feedback. I wanted a real, ol' fashioned toggle that went 'CLICK' when I turned it off or on.
So, I put in one of these heavy-duty, metal tottle switches from Moss MINI:
"http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=42935"
Works great - and gives off a cool, ghostly blue, purple light in the cockpit at night too. :smile:
You do need to be careful when using driving lights. But I've found with a little common sense, they're not a problem. And yes, they do work well for flashing other MINI owners during the day - or just for added visibility.
- - michael
So, I put in one of these heavy-duty, metal tottle switches from Moss MINI:
"http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=42935"
Works great - and gives off a cool, ghostly blue, purple light in the cockpit at night too. :smile:
You do need to be careful when using driving lights. But I've found with a little common sense, they're not a problem. And yes, they do work well for flashing other MINI owners during the day - or just for added visibility.
- - michael
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I have the dealer installed driving lights and they only function with the high beams.
Unfortunately, I find the quality of the light to be subpar. They are very yellow, particularly compared to the bright quality of the MINI's highbeams. They also jiggle like the lights on an old MG-TD. Except for the way they finish off the front of the car, I'd say they're pretty useless.
Unfortunately, I find the quality of the light to be subpar. They are very yellow, particularly compared to the bright quality of the MINI's highbeams. They also jiggle like the lights on an old MG-TD. Except for the way they finish off the front of the car, I'd say they're pretty useless.
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