Interior/Exterior Finally have pix of my Palo Uber Scoop!!!
#77
good lord be constructive with your criticism or keep it to yourself. Is that so hard. Furthermore, even though ur summations on that scoops performance could possibly be correct, you don't have any proof of engineering on either the mini scoop or the palo uber scoop.
So in both cases the information posted is 1 step above useless. That one step is that it kinda involves a mini.
Seriously, keep it clean and constructive. We are all on the same team here remember?
So in both cases the information posted is 1 step above useless. That one step is that it kinda involves a mini.
Seriously, keep it clean and constructive. We are all on the same team here remember?
#78
My little dose of LITHIUM
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Back on track: The Uber scoop design idea is to "catch" a lot of air, and ram it into the stock opening (and presumably the stock seals over the IC.) Randy Webb has said in reference to the stock foam seals that they leak badly at high pressures, and that there's already too much air getting to the IC with the aftermarket scoops (and the stock one presumably since his new diverter takes air from the stock scoop and sends it to the airbox.) Hence, while there are *no* data on airflows for stock, M7 or Uber scoops that I know of, there are some claims of a physical nature, and lots of speculation.
My personal preference is for a very large opening, as some of you may have seen on my "definitive scoop thread". My scoop has the largest opening of any scoop that has ever been shown on NAM, and uses the M7 Ram front end to "catch" more air than the OEM, but not as much as the M7 Extreme or the Uber. The question can only be resolved by measurement, something I'm not in a position to do (being behind my desk all the time, and not under the bonnet of my car!)
The aesthetics of these scoops are pretty personal. Some people don't like Michaelangelo's David, so some people are going to gag on the Uber scoop. Personally it's not to my taste, preferring a more understated look.
cheers,
My personal preference is for a very large opening, as some of you may have seen on my "definitive scoop thread". My scoop has the largest opening of any scoop that has ever been shown on NAM, and uses the M7 Ram front end to "catch" more air than the OEM, but not as much as the M7 Extreme or the Uber. The question can only be resolved by measurement, something I'm not in a position to do (being behind my desk all the time, and not under the bonnet of my car!)
The aesthetics of these scoops are pretty personal. Some people don't like Michaelangelo's David, so some people are going to gag on the Uber scoop. Personally it's not to my taste, preferring a more understated look.
cheers,
#79
[quote=DrPhilGandini;1205799]Back on track: The Uber scoop design idea is to "catch" a lot of air, and ram it into the stock opening (and presumably the stock seals over the IC.) Randy Webb has said in reference to the stock foam seals that they leak badly at high pressures, and that there's already too much air getting to the IC with the aftermarket scoops (and the stock one presumably since his new diverter takes air from the stock scoop and sends it to the airbox.) Hence, while there are *no* data on airflows for stock, M7 or Uber scoops that I know of, there are some claims of a physical nature, and lots of speculation.
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Since I don't have the foam anymore beacuse I now have an Alta aftercooler with a diverter, will I be having the same problem? All I know is I love my scoop and in the morning the car pulls super hard.
M
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Since I don't have the foam anymore beacuse I now have an Alta aftercooler with a diverter, will I be having the same problem? All I know is I love my scoop and in the morning the car pulls super hard.
M
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#80
#81
I think that most people like that the mini is unique in a way that looks good. Just making a car unique doesnt make it "good".
I'm not saying anything about his car, its fine that he added a huge scoop...I just want to adress the crazy philosophy of strictly making your car unique without considering style[as mentioned in the post above].
This car is pretty unique
I'm not saying anything about his car, its fine that he added a huge scoop...I just want to adress the crazy philosophy of strictly making your car unique without considering style[as mentioned in the post above].
This car is pretty unique
#82
#84
#88
I think that most people like that the mini is unique in a way that looks good. Just making a car unique doesnt make it "good".
I'm not saying anything about his car, its fine that he added a huge scoop...I just want to adress the crazy philosophy of strictly making your car unique without considering style[as mentioned in the post above].
This car is pretty unique
I'm not saying anything about his car, its fine that he added a huge scoop...I just want to adress the crazy philosophy of strictly making your car unique without considering style[as mentioned in the post above].
This car is pretty unique
I agree with you 100 % about keeping the car clean. exterior mods are tricky and what you think looks good might not and the other way around. as long as we don't see any minis look like this civic.
#89
I think that most people like that the mini is unique in a way that looks good. Just making a car unique doesnt make it "good".
I'm not saying anything about his car, its fine that he added a huge scoop...I just want to adress the crazy philosophy of strictly making your car unique without considering style[as mentioned in the post above].
This car is pretty unique
I'm not saying anything about his car, its fine that he added a huge scoop...I just want to adress the crazy philosophy of strictly making your car unique without considering style[as mentioned in the post above].
This car is pretty unique
#91
Super scoops
Wow!
I have the CF DFIC scoop and love it.
That said, allot of people may not like it. Hell, allot of people don't like the look of the mini. I just checked out the Palo Uber scoop on Sunday at a mini meet. It was on an orange convert. For me it didn't work on that car.
What I did notice was the big crack in the side of it. On top it looked like it was de-laminating. Everyone needs to remember that true style is in the eye of the beholder. It's a very individual thing.
Longboard
I have the CF DFIC scoop and love it.
That said, allot of people may not like it. Hell, allot of people don't like the look of the mini. I just checked out the Palo Uber scoop on Sunday at a mini meet. It was on an orange convert. For me it didn't work on that car.
What I did notice was the big crack in the side of it. On top it looked like it was de-laminating. Everyone needs to remember that true style is in the eye of the beholder. It's a very individual thing.
Longboard
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#97
http://www.counterfeitmini.com/main.swf Comes to mind...all in good fun
As for the scoop...kind of two faced...I sort of like it but at the same time its contours don't seem to match the car. If paulo whositever maybe put a little more bend or something it would flow with the hood better.
Still innovative though...and thats pimp!
Seann
#98
why can't you guys have a little bit more understanding. OP, when you post some pics for people to view, you need to expect some critism. The bashers, I really dont care. The car looks ok, needs a drop and it will be an eye-candy. The scoop does not bother that much at all, nor to my preference. I think cars with chrome mirror caps and chrome fog lights are as nasty looking as you all described above, if not worse.
#99
This is a mod I've been considering. I have to admit that I like the looks of the stock scoop better, but I don't think it's possible to improve what already looks perfect. (the only the thing that looks better is the scoopless regular cooper...IMO) On the other hand, scoops aren't for looks. Well, they're not suppose to be...HaHa, which is why I'm still considering this mod. I'll check out the other aftermarket scoops. After looking at the pics on Palo Uber's site, I do think it looks much better painted to match the car. Although, the black seemed to look okay on the dark silver. I definitely don't think the "trim black" would look very good on jet black or astro black MINI. If it really improves performance, this is something I wouldn't mind adding to my MINI. BTW...sweet car MarioKart!
#100
This is a mod I've been considering. I have to admit that I like the looks of the stock scoop better, but I don't think it's possible to improve what already looks perfect. (the only the thing that looks better is the scoopless regular cooper...IMO) On the other hand, scoops aren't for looks. Well, they're not suppose to be...HaHa, which is why I'm still considering this mod. I'll check out the other aftermarket scoops. After looking at the pics on Palo Uber's site, I do think it looks much better painted to match the car. Although, the black seemed to look okay on the dark silver. I definitely don't think the "trim black" would look very good on jet black or astro black MINI. If it really improves performance, this is something I wouldn't mind adding to my MINI. BTW...sweet car MarioKart!
M
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp