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Thats a sideways thumb to double check its for JCW sport brakes. Up is green and down is red.
Yep thats the pads shape, but it will be another part i bet for the compound change. We have seen this in the past.
Form MINI : " Braking is another area that MINI focused on. Despite the size and weight difference, the 2020 JCW GP makes use of the same 14” front rotors from the JCW Clubman but in steel for better heat dissipation. This should allow for both excellent performance and fade resistance at the track. "
This is BS and is further promulgated by minis marketing fiasco of the GP3. Even allowing for the impact the Chinese Virus pandemic mini has dropped the ball.
Just to clarify... Is the pad shape 34106889266 the one that fits the GP3?
Also, I note that when I click on any of the F56 JCW front brake pads to see details, it gives a thumbs down for figment for the JCW
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the GP3 the same car as the Clubman and Countryman 2020 JCW (brakes, engine, tranny, suspension)? It's very different from the 2020 F56 JCW model right?
The F56 JCW is still a Mini. The 2020 F54 JCW is a BMW M-135i. So is the GP3.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the GP3 the same car as the Clubman and Countryman 2020 JCW (brakes, engine, tranny, suspension)? It's very different from the 2020 F56 JCW model right?
The F56 JCW is still a Mini. The 2020 F54 JCW is a BMW M-135i. So is the GP3.
I will let you know when, or rather if I ever receive the one that I ordered last November!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the GP3 the same car as the Clubman and Countryman 2020 JCW (brakes, engine, tranny, suspension)? It's very different from the 2020 F56 JCW model right?
The F56 JCW is still a Mini. The 2020 F54 JCW is a BMW M-135i. So is the GP3.
With respect to brakes, I have been researching brake pads (racing/track) for my F56 JCW. What I have found is that my F56 JCW takes the same pad shape as the M235i, M2, M3 and some other cars. Apparently, these are fit into calipers that fit to different size rotors. It also appears that BMW/MINI uses different compound for each of these cars, so they each have different part MINI/BMW part numbers. This is consistent with what ECS said.
At the rear, the GP3 is identical to F56 JCW Brake 260mm.
Countryman & Clubman JCW have different rear brakes bigger, as they have 4WD plus 300 kg.
280 mm upgrade rear F56 S/JCW/GP3 225/45/17 operating temperature 90C - pressure window 2.0 - 2.6
Are these 280mm rear brakes from the Clubman S?
Another item short changed on the JCW (Tires and rear brakes). Even the GenII JCW has larger rotors in the rear than what the S and base version has. This helps to balance the larger front brakes it has. Now with even larger brakes up front on both the JCW and GP the balance has become even more skewed. The rear brakes do make a difference on these cars, even though conventional wisdom is that the rears don’t matter.
Another item short changed on the JCW (Tires and rear brakes). Even the GenII JCW has larger rotors in the rear than what the S and base version has. This helps to balance the larger front brakes it has. Now with even larger brakes up front on both the JCW and GP the balance has become even more skewed. The rear brakes do make a difference on these cars, even though conventional wisdom is that the rears don’t matter.
They are drilled :-) they come from another hatchback. Right the braking improves for sure, therefore it was done :-)
As I consider it also a racecar I would never ever consider such a solution (Sacrilege)
Before I install such a "bug" rather invest in an initial survey:
1. Wheel alignment
2. Dyno Testing
3. Wheel loads (empty tank, you can take the car direct from the dealer on the scales and take off 2 litres)
Coming back to Rachechip, under point 2 you will discover, that the car is already over 325hp ;-) if you have no AC.
Maybe you forgot that this is not GP1/2 this a stock racecar .
Honestly I love the car, its everything I hoped it would be. My fJCW was fast but didn't feel fast, my R53 cooper S with 225 conversion was plain nuts and I still miss the sound track. The GP I feel is a mix of the pair, it clearly is a fast car but even at 60mph it feels fast where the R56 didnt feel fast. The gearbox, I wanted a flappy paddle this time and was disappointed when I found out it was full auto and not the double clutch/DSG type, but having driven the car it is great. Gear changes can be anything from lethargic to violent seemingly on throttle position. When its warm start up is met with a couple pops (most welcome) and even had some on over run. I think drivers will enjoy this GP the most, those waiting will not be disappointed. Cant wait for a dry day and some mountain roads
Interesting video. The whole time out on the track was with the transmission in “automatic mode”; he didn’t use the paddle shifters. It seemed, however, that the transmission did well at keeping up with the demands. And he was clearly impressed with the brakes...
Still interested in hearing what Kev Spiers’ impressions are.
06-24-2020, 01:19 PM
