Originally Posted by KYDan

Minis marketing of this little gem is the equivalent of the infamous military CF!

Originally Posted by KYDan

The Grand Hero is at anchor in Colgate Creek past point Breeze as of 2 minutes ago. I assume that it is waiting to dock when a berth becomes available. UGH! This is akin to the old adage that a watched pot never boils.

Originally Posted by Quickpaws Turbomonster

I think mines on the same boat as yours... in the Chesapeake now so it shouldn’t be long

Originally Posted by Clutch Wotan

you know a sub could still pitch into the harbor !

Originally Posted by KYDan

No doubt that it would be a mini sub!

Originally Posted by KYDan

It would appear there are BMW engineers with too much spare time on their hands! They could put their skills to better use designing a better GP3 production and delivery process!

Originally Posted by mountainhorse

Over a JCW Hardtop 2021.... besides the 301 hp... what is different in the chassis, traction control systems, brakes transmission etc. from this GP3 ??
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Originally Posted by TheBigNewt

And it has a different (8 speed) automatic transmission right?

Originally Posted by Eddie07S

That I don’t know. The MINI USA web still shows a 6 speed manual and an 8 speed automatic option, but who knows if that is up to date (still showing as 2020).. Or if the 8 speed is the same as the GP’s. The Hatch JCW and Clubman JCW automatic are both called a “8 speed sports...”, for what that is worth. And the Clubman’s auto is the same as is in the GP. I’m back to - don’t know...

Although, I believe the programming for the auto is different.

Originally Posted by Clutch Wotan

As said one year before for 2021 Master Plan U30 a GP3 manual will be considered. the 50 kg less on the front are appreciated and compensate the cage.

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Looking through the parts, the F56 JCW and the F54 JCW both have versions of GA8G45AW with different part numbers and the F54's is specified that's it's for an AWD vehicle. The latest part number for the awd version is 24009844237, is labelled GA8G45XAW - ENW and shows as for the F39 M35i and the F60 JCW, could just be the F54's parts haven't updated in bimmercat yet. The F56 JCW uses part 24009844227 and it's labelled GA8G45AW - E07. No parts info out there for the GP3 yet to see how they compare.

Originally Posted by MikeMJCW

Originally Posted by Eddie07S

So, maybe the AT guts are the same, but the AWD Version has the addition of a transfer case or the like? And it is conceivable that the GP and JCW use the same box? Or am I over thinking this...

Originally Posted by Eddie07S

Missed this one. The list is quite extensive and has been discussed through this thread but scattered through out. So a snapshot as I can remember it... The rear wing and front aero. Special steering knuckle for a wider track and more camber. Not sure what else they have done for camber. Underside braces, springs and shocks, Engine management and “traction control” unique to the GP. Larger front brake rotors (not sure if the caliper is different or not). Not sure about rear brakes. Wider wheels; better tires. Lighter weight (by about 200#, if the post being quoted are correct). Limited options; one version has no AC. Have not heard if it has special brake pads (I would guess yes) or if it has different sway bars. Engine is beefed up with stronger piston and what not. I am sure I am missing something...

Originally Posted by Eddie07S

I think there is a typo in your post... Maybe that was supposed to be ?

but:

that would sound like they added caster to the front suspension that the JCW doesn’t have.

Originally Posted by KYDan

It is what it is and I am sure I will like it, my R56 JCW was a great little car and I love it and I wish now that I had kept it. But my F56 JCW with all the bells and whistles is a fantastically fun beast and fast and with a few tweaks produced 279 HP and has been a comfortable, flawless, twisty mobile, not perfect, but it suits me and with 60K miles it is still going strong. A great DD, but a fun beast in the twisties and adequate on the track. I know I will miss the dynamic damper that it has when I am traveling to and from the events, but the GP3 has all the power I can handle in what is a still small car and it will suit Paula and I for as long as we continue to drive twisty roads and there are a lot of good ones that we haven't driven yet singing the siren's song for us. I hope to have it later this month and have it wrapped and a few other modifications that will make it mine and then the agonizingly slow break in period, but we will enjoy that process as well. I am researching tires now and most likely will go with Michelin as I have had excellent results with their tires on all of our fast toys over the years. We will break it in with the Hankooks or what ever OEM tires that are on it, then make a decision of what we will use on it. We have the Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+s on our JCW and they are a good performing all season all weather tire, but not up to hard tracking duty, but a nice compromise and they are not runflats which we don't like due to the severe ride quality. We also have them on the Z06, but they are the runflat version and for our use the are fine, but not a particularly good track tire, but adequate for all around driving use. Most likely I will replace the OEM Hankooks with the Michelin Super Sport category tires non runflat and carry my compressor kit, slime, etc. It has served me well for 4 years of hard twisty driving in the JCW. I will keep up with the forum posts to see what others have done and what works best for them based upon their driving styles and preferences. It is fun speculating what will and won't work and the various solutions that others find that suits their need. We are going to have fun with this little beast whatever we decide to do. Bring on the Hondas, M2s, the Alfa Romeos, and other challengers and we will all have a good time and share our stories after hard fun runs and track days and talk about what a great day over dinner and drinks. Then do it again the next day and have too much fun. I miss the mountains and need some good runs to relieve my covid 19 blues!

Originally Posted by Clutch Wotan

235/40/18 way better than the stock 225/35/18, the car comes up 1,5cm and the wheelhouse looks fine front it needs 3mm spacers to have 5 mm clearance.