Navigation & Audio Quick Poll: Who's had Harman Kardon amp failure?
#151
Class action lawsuit Mini & HK
I finally after almost a year got m HK fixed. I had electronics shop work on it and had several diagnostics test run on it. They couldn't fix it. Finally we found a guy that had one for sale, however it's an old one and will probably go out again, we unplugged the old one, plugged in the used one and now sound! But what happens when it goes out again? I spoke to Mini USA and my local dealer nothing at all they sent me to HK said it was their problem, HK said they don't have any kind of warranty and that it is totally up to the dealer once they buy the parts from HK it's their problem. What a bunch of jerks, but I had read this was the normal response from both of them. Since we have some that are wanting to looking into class action does someone want to make the call? I was thinking if we look up the attorneys that have won cases against them we might be off to a good start. I warned both HK and Mini that we were talking about a class action suit, they both said that was fine with them. I wonder how fine it will be when we all win! Who wants to make the call? I will be glad to do the research on attorneys that have won cases if no one else wants to. We can set up a Facebook page for failed HK's and run ads on Craigs list to get people who have had a problem with something that is clearly defective and they know it but refuse to accept responsibility. Oh and if any one wants the news media to do a story on this it might help all our cases.
#152
Me To... (04 cooper S march build date) factory Nave and HK... it runs for a few min it the first time its started in the morning then nothing but all displays from the sirius sat radio are seen on the head unit.
searching for someone I can send it to to be repaired. on the O4 does it live with the DVD drive for the Satellite nav under the passenger seat or in the right rear quarter panel?
searching for someone I can send it to to be repaired. on the O4 does it live with the DVD drive for the Satellite nav under the passenger seat or in the right rear quarter panel?
#154
Hope you find the solution that works best for you.
The JL Audio XD600/6 I put in my daughter's Mini in 2012 is still working perfectly and sounds great. Took some EQ tweaking at the amp to get the sound she was happy with, but it was great to not have to replace the speakers, or buy any crossovers since its all done at the amp. If you do go with a JL, I think all the info you need is in this thread. The car is outside in N. WA all winter and there don't seem to be any moisture issues with the XD.
The JL Audio XD600/6 I put in my daughter's Mini in 2012 is still working perfectly and sounds great. Took some EQ tweaking at the amp to get the sound she was happy with, but it was great to not have to replace the speakers, or buy any crossovers since its all done at the amp. If you do go with a JL, I think all the info you need is in this thread. The car is outside in N. WA all winter and there don't seem to be any moisture issues with the XD.
#155
#156
H/K Issues, Help!
I think mine has failed. My system still plays a muffled muddy sound of music, has anyone had one fail this way? Or do they just quit, no sound?
#157
Member Support
Answered my own question, YES!!! A Super Member (Pho53) hooked me up, we are back in tune town! Thanks Pho 53 !!!!
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#158
Plus one here on the failed Harman Kardon amp
2005 Mini Cooper-S convertible with 49K miles, just recently bought it knowing the stereo didn't work and after much research (and this very informative forum/thread) certain that this is why. The previous owner told me he thought it was the amp for the record. Got a JVC KD-R880BT for Christmas but trying to figure out how to incorporate that into getting the system to work again. I REALLY don't want to pull apart the doors if I can avoid it, plus money is tight so I'm trying to avoid spending more than I absolutely have to.
What I'm wondering is if I go with an aftermarket amp like the JL 600/6, will that affect anything else within the car? (like the CAN-bus system, etc)
Also, thanks to everyone for so much information, it's so helpful and much appreciated.
What I'm wondering is if I go with an aftermarket amp like the JL 600/6, will that affect anything else within the car? (like the CAN-bus system, etc)
Also, thanks to everyone for so much information, it's so helpful and much appreciated.
#159
I have not had mine fail yet and it has 280K miles. But i have a back up just in case. You can tell when its on its way out when you get the loud beep or the cracking and popping and the speakers are fine themselves. 65129146708 or 65129146709
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...er-or-amp.html
Info on aftermarket amp:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mp-option.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...failure-3.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-stereo-430935
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...fier-help.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...er-or-amp.html
Info on aftermarket amp:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mp-option.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...failure-3.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-stereo-430935
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...fier-help.html
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BTW, it is interesting that the JL XD600/6 is class-D (switch mode) amps and can drive 2-ohm speaker as claimed.
#163
Firstly, I don't own a H/K. From what I infer after inspecting the wiring diagrams, H/K amp photos in and out etc, the H/K amp inputs are not the industry standard "line level" inputs that all aftermarket HUs and amps use. To you the JL amp you would likely need to change out the H/K HU too with a aftermarket one.
BTW, it is interesting that the JL XD600/6 is class-D (switch mode) amps and can drive 2-ohm speaker as claimed.
BTW, it is interesting that the JL XD600/6 is class-D (switch mode) amps and can drive 2-ohm speaker as claimed.
#164
Dual-Range Differential Balanced Input Section
True balanced differential analog signal transmission requires the use of true balanced differential coax cable for interconnect. This ain't one.
#165
#166
Speaker-level (not what you want if you have line-level input), and line-level inputs are nearly always expected inputs on any car amps since the dawn of time.
BTW, class-D amps have came a long way. But for the purists would not want class-D except for processing sub-woofer applications. It is chose here for compactness, big profit margin, and perhaps power efficiency.
Class-D amp functions by chopping DC into pieces, then filter into analog audio again. Think chop suey as Chinese food. I am a foodie and can cook so I cannot help it. Food is as important to me as high fidelity, and high performance machines.
BTW, class-D amps have came a long way. But for the purists would not want class-D except for processing sub-woofer applications. It is chose here for compactness, big profit margin, and perhaps power efficiency.
Class-D amp functions by chopping DC into pieces, then filter into analog audio again. Think chop suey as Chinese food. I am a foodie and can cook so I cannot help it. Food is as important to me as high fidelity, and high performance machines.
#167
choy suey and class-d amp
Choy suey 雜碎 means mindlessly chopped up bit and pieces. It was the earliest American Chinese food. From what I infer after the early Westward expansion of our nation which Chinese labors helped built the transcontinental railways and worked in mining and road building. When the work dried up some of these men started their restaurants. Most can only cook to survive and few had ever cooked back home, let alone trained chefs. Chop suey was all they can do, but soon this started the American Chinese craze.
#168
I guess I'll add my name to the ever-growing list of H/K Amps that do not work.....my '06 R52 MCS JCW has the amp under the passenger seat.....I've researched this issue and I also have found out that these are not easily repairable and used ones are way overpriced with no guarantee that used one will work at all when installed.....
I to would like to know of an aftermarket replacement or if I can just by-pass the OE amp and just run the head unit to the speakers with out an amp.....I'm sure I'll have to replace the speakers, and I would only run the 4 large speakers, not the 2 little tweeters in the doors.
Bryan
I to would like to know of an aftermarket replacement or if I can just by-pass the OE amp and just run the head unit to the speakers with out an amp.....I'm sure I'll have to replace the speakers, and I would only run the 4 large speakers, not the 2 little tweeters in the doors.
Bryan
#169
It has been a few years now since I replaced mine. For my '03 Mini R53 it is in the trunk. I ended up finding a refurbished JL amp, I believe 4-channel (works well, but I recommend 5 channel, since that is what the OEM is). I haven't had any problems with it after ~5 years.
With an H/K system, it would be nice to have the amp, since it is already a premium sound system. Best of luck!
With an H/K system, it would be nice to have the amp, since it is already a premium sound system. Best of luck!
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#171
I have bought ebay ones in the past, you have to make sure they are tested and work, I have heard of people getting them only to find out they are dead and not tested.
Does it cut out with and without the aux cable?
Does it cut out with and without the aux cable?
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#172
The first time it cut out was when my friend had his phone connected via AUX. We came home, I disconnected the battery for about a minute ane after reconnecting the radio worked with the key in the ignition. But it cut out again when I started the car and now it's completely dead.
#173
Ok, yep they buy new from us or gamble on an old unit. Some people try to fix the old units or mod an e46 HK amp.
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#175
I wish we did, but we don't sell used car parts unless it was new and then a scratch and dent. We don't service cars here unless it's for R&D development or company car fitments. So we don't get used parts to put on the site.
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