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Old 10-09-2015 | 06:45 AM
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That's great. Maybe he'll give you a deal on the shipping!
 
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Old 10-31-2015 | 03:35 PM
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While waiting for parts to arrive I have been playing with a jbl Ms-2

http://www.jbl.com/car-amplifiers/MS...ifiers#start=1

This little gadget has totally transformed the quality of the base mini sound system

no longer muddy
moved soundstage forward and up

60 bucks with free shipping
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-11195-ms...optimizer.html

Just received the shipping notice for the final part for install. Should have install info and review in the next 2 weeks.
 
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Old 11-17-2015 | 06:42 AM
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Install took 3 hours using the technic asd harness. still burning in new drivers so have not gone past 60% volume.

Having had a jbl ms8 and a audison bit one in the past all I can say is that audiotec fischer have raised the bar in mobile audio quality. Ease of use, setup and install plus made in Germany with a competitive price point in the match and helix lines.

I would love to have the brax nox dsp by audiotech fischer running brax or audiofrog drivers.
 
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Old 11-17-2015 | 05:55 PM
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This is brilliant, thanks for sharing!
 
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Old 11-19-2015 | 09:22 AM
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[QUOTE=F55MidnightBlackCooperS;4139860]While waiting for parts to arrive I have been playing with a jbl Ms-2

http://www.jbl.com/car-amplifiers/MS...ifiers#start=1

This little gadget has totally transformed the quality of the base mini sound system

no longer muddy
moved soundstage forward and up

60 bucks with free shipping
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-11195-ms...optimizer.html

Interesting. I watched a couple videos. My iPod is plugged into my Mini using the supplied Y cable (Aux and USB). Is that the way your car is too, or do you just use the 3.5mm Aux input? I get the impression that if you use this thing you won't get to use the USB port which I think brings the song menu to the Mini's screen.
 

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Old 11-19-2015 | 02:45 PM
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[QUOTE=TheBigNewt;4146534]
Originally Posted by F55MidnightBlackCooperS
While waiting for parts to arrive I have been playing with a jbl Ms-2

http://www.jbl.com/car-amplifiers/MS...ifiers#start=1

This little gadget has totally transformed the quality of the base mini sound system

no longer muddy
moved soundstage forward and up

60 bucks with free shipping
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-11195-ms...optimizer.html

Interesting. I watched a couple videos. My iPod is plugged into my Mini using the supplied Y cable (Aux and USB). Is that the way your car is too, or do you just use the 3.5mm Aux input? I get the impression that if you use this thing you won't get to use the USB port which I think brings the song menu to the Mini's screen.
The ms2 connects to your phones aux output and is powered by the 12v outlet.

A great perk for me is that the ms2 is portable, I rent cars frequently and demo highend 45ft touring coaches to clients. after testing my ms2 in many different cars and floorplans of touring coaches I am convinced that a ms2 can give any system better audio reproduction quality.
 
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Old 12-28-2015 | 03:02 PM
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[QUOTE=F55MidnightBlackCooperS;4146688]
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The ms2 connects to your phones aux output and is powered by the 12v outlet.

A great perk for me is that the ms2 is portable, I rent cars frequently and demo highend 45ft touring coaches to clients. after testing my ms2 in many different cars and floorplans of touring coaches I am convinced that a ms2 can give any system better audio reproduction quality.
I bought one for $60 from WoofersEtc.com. I have a 2014 JCW which connects to an older iPod and lets me search songs/playlists using the car's center screen using Mini Connected. So I connected the MS-2 and I had to use the iPod to pick music. Then there are the wires. 3 connections to the MS-2, 2 to the iPod (headphone, usb charging), and one to the Aux input on the car. That's 6 wires and trust me it's a freaking mess It looked worse than behind my home theater system lol. And if there's no power to the lighter jack there's no music either, because the unit runs on that power source. Turn off car, music turns off unless you hit the start button again. It sounded better, but not a LOT better, after all it's an equalizer using the same amp and speakers. I dicked around with my treble and balance and it sounds the same to me now. So I call WoofersEtc.com for a refund. No deal, I'm outside the 30 day return window (I had my wife buy it and give it to me for Christmas). They say they'll give me "discounts" on any other stuff I buy there. So I look and they send you to other links for everything they sell. Like that's gonna work right? So my review of this unit is that it's a little better sounding with a MESS OF WIRES and you cannot control the music selections from the car's screen. And stay away from that website if you have any hopes of a return.
 

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Old 01-04-2016 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks for the info; you confirmed what my installer was saying essential.

[QUOTE=TheBigNewt;4158374]
Originally Posted by F55MidnightBlackCooperS
I bought one for $60 from WoofersEtc.com. I have a 2014 JCW which connects to an older iPod and lets me search songs/playlists using the car's center screen using Mini Connected. So I connected the MS-2 and I had to use the iPod to pick music. Then there are the wires. 3 connections to the MS-2, 2 to the iPod (headphone, usb charging), and one to the Aux input on the car. That's 6 wires and trust me it's a freaking mess It looked worse than behind my home theater system lol. And if there's no power to the lighter jack there's no music either, because the unit runs on that power source. Turn off car, music turns off unless you hit the start button again. It sounded better, but not a LOT better, after all it's an equalizer using the same amp and speakers. I dicked around with my treble and balance and it sounds the same to me now. So I call WoofersEtc.com for a refund. No deal, I'm outside the 30 day return window (I had my wife buy it and give it to me for Christmas). They say they'll give me "discounts" on any other stuff I buy there. So I look and they send you to other links for everything they sell. Like that's gonna work right? So my review of this unit is that it's a little better sounding with a MESS OF WIRES and you cannot control the music selections from the car's screen. And stay away from that website if you have any hopes of a return.
 
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Old 01-19-2016 | 06:55 PM
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I have a F55 w Mini Connect (normal screen not the XL, therefore it does not have HK). I NEED to upgrade the sound in it. My concern is having to gut the thing because I wouldn't have an option to get an amp in it to drive better speakers. Any suggestion?
 
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Old 01-20-2016 | 04:33 AM
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The head unit on all F56 is basically the same. Line level out. So you tap into those wires no mater if you have an HK system or not. In fact if you don't have HK it is easier because Canbus looks for the amp when doing an upgrade and if you have changed it, it will not upgrade. You need to bypass the ASD (noise maker) either mechanically or with Esys. Your new amp will make the car sound like it has a hole in the muffler otherwise. Serch under "defeating asd" I posted some wring diagrams.
Good luck!
 
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Old 03-16-2016 | 06:01 PM
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I'm a first time Mini owner (2015 2 door S) and feel the need to upgrade my audio system. I've read all of the posts here and most of this is over my head (as well as hell of expensive).
Why is there a need for a DSP? I was thinking I could upgrade the speakers and put a decent amp driving them and roll on. I don't think I want a sub as I value what little cargo space I have.
Thoughts?
 
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Old 03-16-2016 | 06:11 PM
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for details I was considering:
JL C5-525cw for the rear (would require some cutting of the panel)
48-5Khz $320/pair
JL TR400-CXi for the front (to maintain the look of the door panel)
71-22Khz $99/pair
JL XD400/4v2 amp $430
4x74w @ 4ohms
 
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Old 04-14-2016 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by F55MidnightBlackCooperS
Install took 3 hours using the technic asd harness. still burning in new drivers so have not gone past 60% volume.

Having had a jbl ms8 and a audison bit one in the past all I can say is that audiotec fischer have raised the bar in mobile audio quality. Ease of use, setup and install plus made in Germany with a competitive price point in the match and helix lines.

I would love to have the brax nox dsp by audiotech fischer running brax or audiofrog drivers.
Do you have any final pictures of install and maybe a video for sound quality?? really interested to upgrade my sound system in my MCS but don't have the budget that you had.

thank you!!
 
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